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re: Turning to the OT for some helpful advice as a 15 year poster

Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:52 pm to
Tough stuff. Someone suggested a trust. Talk to an elder lawyer. I do know someone whose relative got a small med malpractice settlement, bought a house for cash and then got some sort of trust set up for medical and was able to get Medicaid. It’s all a scam. Don’t sell your home. Get it figured out with her finances, you shouldn’t lose your stuff.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61789 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:57 am to
When the forms ask for household income, it is not explicitly stated but they mean “tax” household - not everyone on your property.

Assuming you claim your kids as dependents, you are one tax household.

Your mother is a separate tax household - unless you also claim her as a dependent.

That distinction could make a big difference.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
26320 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:02 am to
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$8000 a month.


That seems high, my mom had Parkinson's and we had her in a nice assisted living facility at the highest level of care and I think it was around $6300. Her income was around $2200, but my father left her well off so money wasn't an issue.

They controlled her meds, brought meals when she didn't go to the dining rooms, when she ended up in a wheelchair they would wheel her around when needed, had a call bracelet she could use whenever, did her laundry, assisted her with showers.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 2:06 am
Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
5201 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:06 am to
Thanks for all of the info. I’ll def check into it bc there were numerous things mentioned that I didn’t think of or know about.

I don’t know how far the, “Marry an illegal to cook, clean, tender care” will get me, but nothing is off the table lol.

Thanks again.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
26320 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:12 am to
I know it's not something you want to think about, but when it comes time look into Hospice, do your homework and find a good one.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3772 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:19 am to
Was your dad a veteran? It is possible to get help from the VA for up to i think $1500 a month for a surviving spouse for care. My dad who passed away was retired AF though. I don't know if that makes a difference. If you do get her in a home if you lived at her house with her for a year I was told they can't put a lean on the home or if you make i think 300% of the poverty level. I would talk to a lawyer.

I hope things work out for you. We are going through same thing. $9000 a month and all her savings will be gone in a year. Then she should be able to go on medicaid.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 5:22 am
Posted by BruslyTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:32 am to
If a nursing home is going to cost you $8,000 a month, I'm assuming she needs memory Care which is tough. We have looked at that route and it is very expensive but I can't believe they said Medicaid won't work with her income. I'm not sure where you live, but most nursing homes have people that specialize in getting the money from Medicaid so you may want to talk to another home.

I'm in a similar situation with my father for the last 2 years. I'm lucky enough to have three other siblings that help me with him at night and we have hired sitters to come during the day for 10 hours. It takes all of his income, social security and retirement to cover the sitters and then the rest comes out of savings.

Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46683 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:34 am to
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We looked into a nursing home which is roughly $8000 a month. She’s 71 and her total retirement income is around $3000 monthly. I applied for Medicaid and even though she can’t even cover half a months stay at the nursing home, they said she makes too much to qualify.


I do this for a living. It's a qualified income trust. It allows over income individuals to qualify for medicaid. Very easy to do.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13391 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:28 am to
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Look into a residential group home..they have them in houses where a caregiver or 2 watches 6 to 8 patients, serve them meals, etc. They live there like a nursing home, but it is a residential home and usually quite a bit less...


Almost sounds like a Golden Girls situation, but with older residents since they require a caregiver.

I read somewhere that more older folks are starting to live like this.

They have a big house paid for or still on a fixed low interest note all kids are grown up, and they take up senior roommates to generate extra income and pay expenses.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12954 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:37 am to
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Have you looked into a home healthcare person to stay with her? There are older women out there that do that type of thing. They aren't real nurses, more like a home helper.


This. ~$20-$25/hr cash
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1617 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:12 am to
$3,000 a month should cover a day time nurse to sit with her during the work week. Don't sell a house that has the ability to house everyone, thats bad business.
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1617 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:12 am to
$3,000 a month should cover a day time nurse to sit with her during the work week. Don't sell a house that has the ability to house everyone, thats bad business.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
3106 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:21 am to
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She’s 71 and her total retirement income is around $3000 monthly.


Where’s the $3000/month currently going?


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I am now in the process of putting my house on the market that’s been in my family for almost 40 years in order to try and cover her stay


The house has been in your family almost 40 years? Is this the house you grew up in? Is it in her name or yours?
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:26 am
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9557 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:25 am to
Not to be brutal but how this usually plays out is mom falls because someone can’t be with her 24/7. She needs surgery for broken hip, does to rehab, has to stay long term in nursing home. They’ll exhaust all her assets then Medicaid should step in.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69668 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:29 am to
I don't have anything helpful to say, but one thing I've heard from many good people who fell on hard times and needed government assistance is that it's almost impossible to get for normal, hardworking citizens.

The only people who qualify for government assistance are lifetime and generational recipients. It's one of the reasons it needs to be reined in and reformed so badly.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14268 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:33 am to
I wouldn't sell the house to fund this. The house has been in your family for 40 years...does that mean it's fully paid off or has their been refinancing along the way? Regardless, I would assume you have a ton of equity in it now...I'd consider opening a HELOC before selling it. You are only going to find yourself in a worse situation as you try to find a new home at these prices and interest rates.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
24055 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:39 am to
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look into moving her assets into a special needs trust. May allow you to get her medicaid.


Some of those programs look back at your assets for the last 5 years to make sure people aren't moving assets around like that.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2269 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:49 am to
I am not up to date with the costs associated with elderly care, although I will be soon enough. But isn’t it possible to find an in home care giver for less than $96,000 a year? I have some general understanding that Medicare will cover some of this as well?
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
972 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:56 am to
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during the work week


Bruh, please believe me when I say with all sincerity I'm not trying to be a jackass here...but to suggest that someone sit with her for $3,000 a month, only during work hours, suggests to me that you've never had a parent in this situation.

There's no way that man can spend $3K just to come home every day and take care of his mom for the rest of the day. That neglects his kids, and will wear him out inside of 6 months. He'll either go broke or insane. It really sucks to say it, but at some point you have no choice but to put your parent in the care of a home. That burden will positively destroy any semblance of a family.

It's too late for the OP, but I would suggest to anyone reading this - if you have an elderly family member, especially a single one - consider an estate planning attorney to set up a trust. As another poster mentioned, there's a five year lookback period, so you need to start the clock before it's time to place them in a facility.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:57 am
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1482 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:01 am to
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We looked into a nursing home which is roughly $8000 a month. She’s 71 and her total retirement income is around $3000 monthly. I applied for Medicaid and even though she can’t even cover half a months stay at the nursing home, they said she makes too much to qualify.


I work for a nursing home and the Medicaid applications fall under the my department and that’s not how Medicaid works. I would re-talk to them or go talk to another facility. Or you can call Medicaid yourself and talk to a rep. There’s two parts to Medicaid. Below is a brief but pretty accurate summary.

First thing they do is look at her assets that’s in her name, not counting a house or one automobile. So things such as bank accounts, 401(k), whole life, insurance policies, things that she can cash out. That all has a total below $2000 in Louisiana or she has to spend it down until she is below. Different states may have different limits, but it’s still works the same.It could be spent on fixing up her house she owns, burial insurance, burial plot, or at the facility you put her in. Those assets I mentioned have to be below $2000 before she becomes Medicaid eligible.

The second part of the equation is her income, things such asSocial Security, pension, or anything else that she gets paid monthly that has no cash value if she was to pass. If the nursing home bill is $8000, and her income is $3000, she gets a keep $45 of her income and the rest goes to nursing home. Medicaid pays the full difference of the nursing home bill less her payment. It doesn’t matter if her income is one dollar or $7999. They pay the difference of her income less the $45 of the total bill.

That is 100% fact as long as she has a reason to be in a nursing home such as she cannot take care of herself and needs 24 hour care. Again, this is for a nursing home, not assisted living.

This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 10:06 am
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