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re: Turning to the OT for some helpful advice as a 15 year poster

Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:05 am to
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12209 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:05 am to
One thing that may not have been mentioned:
when she has moved to a facility, you will have a free standing apartment you can rent out. Depending on where you live that could provide an additional thousand a month, which would pay for any efficiency kitchen you might have to add.
That could be more or less than 12K a year, but why not look for that as your children's college/trade school fund?
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
19007 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:08 am to
yeah - until your mother or father decide to take advantage of you and almost wreck your marriage. after my father passed, she guilted my wife and I into believing that she could no longer afford the apartment she was in, and we allowed her to move in with us. the agreement was, she would help us with contributions towards expenses, we did not ask for specific amounts or specific bills to be covered. 4 months after she moved in, she had contributed nothing towards expenses, food or otherwise - she instead bought frivolous things, would go drive an hour back to a place she would go eat and spend money eating out. during this time my wife lost her job, and we were barely surviving - basically it was bill juggling - pay the house and utilities, and pay a couple bills here, skip others and we got in dire financial situation - it wasn't until just before she moved out that she would chip in here and there for groceries.

long story short -
quote:

I do remember reading where it says honor your mother and father
the parent should have that honor, if they deserve it.
Posted by WAR TIGER
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2005
4348 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:11 am to
Dont sell your house! Get a low cost aid to help your mom while you are away.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14238 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:23 am to
I'm no expert, but check in to in home hospice care. It can actually go on for a very long time.
Posted by Jim Ed Love
Deep East Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2024
119 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:00 am to


This right here. Listen to this guy, he happens to know more than the throw

shite at the wall suggestions some are making. Been through it with both

parents.
Posted by Tedorgeron
Member since Feb 2022
326 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:15 am to
Not ideal but I remodeled a house next to a house where a lady ran a mini group home for seniors in this situation. It was well run clean and everyone shared the cost of care. I can imagine there are some that are not great. Owner was super nice. I have her a brand new walk in tub from the house we were remodeling
Posted by done dancing
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2016
256 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:40 am to
This. If she has liwuid assets they will use that towards the bill. After that is exhausted, they will take whatever monthly income she has and Medicare should pick up the rest. You don't need an attorney, just a reputable nursing home. They cN back five years on cash and investments but houses and other physical assets are usually off limits do to heirship ans community property issues.
Posted by ManyTiger
Member since Jun 2020
968 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:30 pm to
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Talk to a lawyer!!


This is the absolute best advice you will receive on this situation.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47444 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:34 am to
quote:

long story short -

quote: I do remember reading where it says honor your mother and father

the parent should have that honor, if they deserve it.


Again I’m no expert but I don’t remember reading about deserving it, but I do remember reading about grace and mercy.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13263 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:38 am to
As others have said find someone that can help Monday to Friday 8-5 ish for $18 to $22 an hour. Do not sell an asset only to give it to an assisted living company whose sole goal isn’t to actually care for your loved one but to drain their (and your) bank account.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
19007 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:01 am to
and when the Parent is either unwilling or incapable of doing back to the child what you mention? sorry, but I have to disagree with you on that one, respectfully disagree with you that is.

when the parent is a Narcissist, or at the very least shows strong tendencies, then it makes it difficult for me to allow it to slide. when the parent gaslights, or endlessly guilt trips the child into things and situations, then I do not agree with your take.

When the parent is clearly in the wrong, but is incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions, and instead spins the narrative to benefit them to the rest of the family to make the child and their spouse out to be horrible people, and mistreated them, or cannot understand why they betrayed them - then I cannot agree with your view.

and I am saying this because I have lived it most of my life, and I allowed it to go by because I believed in honoring the parents - but after my mother disrespected me and my wife to our faces, refused to accept boundaries in our house, for which she was a guest and even going as far as badmouthing us to family, while we could hear her - then denying everything, not to mention almost derailing my marriage (for which I am guilty of it due to my actions in believing i needed to honor my parent, I have a slightly different view of things.

you have your view and it works for you, and I acknowledge how you feel on the subject, and wont tell you you are wrong - I just cannot see it that way in application for my life is all.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85506 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:04 am to
I don’t know what I’d do, but I know I would not sell my house and relocate my three kids.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 9:07 am
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17964 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:08 am to
Stay at home care. You can schedule when you need them and time, any day. Did this with my mom for over 10 years. I believe the pay was, and this was over 10 years ago, was around 12 dollars an hour. She was able to stay at home until she passed. Good luck.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
19007 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:14 am to
back on topic OP, when my dad had Dementia, ultimately passing last Feb, he needed assistance - my parents had Viva healthcare, and they had a care person come in several times a week, not all day situations, but several hours a day to help him, sit with him and allow for my mother to focus on things like groceries, cleaning and so on.

not sure if anything like that is available for you, or even what or if it cost them, but may look into something like that.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69236 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:17 am to
quote:

I don't know anything about her medical situation but look into moving her assets into a special needs trust. May allow you to get her medicaid.


Consult with an elder law attorney because there is a way to do this that is legal but you have to do it a certain way to make sure it works properly.
Posted by FedTiger
Denton Co. Tx
Member since Oct 2013
54 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:48 am to
(wife replying): Here are some things to think about. Not legal advice, just our experience, we live in Texas.

1. Someone mentioned a care home. That was a life saver for my 84-year-old mom. It's in a house in a residential neighborhood, maximum of 5 residents, with 2 staff around the clock. They prepare meals, give and record meds, provide bathing and hygiene care, and report food and water intake to me when I ask about it. They'll take her outside to the patio, or she can watch TV or do a game/puzzle in the common areas of the house. There's a bus every Thursday that takes some residents to the senior center (not my mom; too feeble/confused). Highly recommend this over nursing home because nursing homes are motivated to fill beds, but once the bed is filled, there's no incentive for care. My mom has been in a few when she was discharged from rehab and they don't answer the call button, they sometimes forget to deliver meals, and the floor was sometimes not clean. Care home has more accountability, depending on which one you choose. The one my mom's in is $4,500/month.

2. If your mom has congestive heart failure, kidney disease, dementia, or other degenerative condition (i.e., she's not going to get any better), hospice can come to her. Hospice is not just for the last weeks of terminal illness. People sometimes stay on hospice for years. Medicare pays for it. My mom's hospice company provides an RN who visits 2-3 times per week, a nurse's aide who visits 3 x per week. They change her adult diaper, take vitals, report on any conditions that need treatment. They act as her primary care physician so we have not had to put her in an ambulance to the ER since we went on hospice. They have a physician and a pharmacist a phone call away, so when she got a fungal infection under an acrylic nail from a manicure, they treated it where she lives. They have also ordered everything she needed to live there: hospital bed, wheelchair, oxygen compressor, oxygen tank, supplies, anything she needs. I can text the account manager and/or nursing supervisor 24 x 7. Also, they'll come and treat her 24 hours a day. Medicare pays for it all.

3. In Texas, Medicaid pay for a nursing home once the resident has paid down all her assets. She cannot transfer real estate, bank balances, cars, or other assets within 5 years of needing the nursing home, though. But once the application is accepted, Medicaid pays for all the shortfall for the rest of her life.

4. Use a senior housing advisor. Their fee is paid by the facility that you end up going with. They act like an agent, and many of them know the supervisors or owners of the facilities and care homes they recommend. It's very helpful to tell one of these what you need and get recommendations of places that will work for you and your mom.

Do not sell your house. Your responsibility is to help your mom get care. It is not to provide it yourself. Your children are your first priority. You can do this and still be there for them.

Praying for you and your family.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11637 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 10:16 am to
Is the house in your name or your mom’s?
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