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True cost of fueling an electric vehicle may be as much as $17.33 per gallon of gas
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:46 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:46 am
Interesting, if true.
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EV advocates claim that the cost of electricity for EV owners is equal to $1.21 per gallon of gasoline (Edison Electric Institute, 2021), but the cost of charging equipment and charging losses, averaged out over 10 years and 120,000 miles, is $1.38 per gallon equivalent on top of that. Adding the costs of the subsidies to the true cost of fueling an EV would equate to an EV owner paying $17.33 per gallon of gasoline. And these estimates do not include the hundreds of billions more in subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act (2022) for various aspects of the EV supply chain, particularly for battery manufacturing. It is not an overstatement to say that the federal government is subsidizing EVs to a greater degree than even wind and solar electricity generation and embarking on an unprecedented endeavor to remake the entire American auto industry.
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Key Points
• The cost of producing electric vehicles (EVs) is far higher than the prices they are being sold for . Nearly $22 billion in federal and state subsidies and regulatory credits suppressed the retail price of EVs in 2021 by an average of almost $50,000 .
• Thanks to an unlawful multiplier, EVs receive nearly seven times more credits under federal fuel efficiency programs than they provide in actual fuel economy benefits.
• Regulatory credits with bonus EV multipliers from federal fuel efficiency and greenhouse gas emissions standards and state EV sales mandates provide an average of $27,881 in benefits per vehicle for producers of EVs .
• Home and public charging stations used by EVs put a significant strain on the electric grid, resulting in an average of $11,833 in socialized costs per EV over 10 years, which are shouldered by utility ratepayers and taxpayers .
• Direct state and federal subsidies for EVs average $8,984 per vehicle over 10 years
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Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:53 am to Death Before Disco
When the politicians give up their gas vehicles and gas planes I’ll think about it
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:54 am to Death Before Disco
Get this logic out of here. Democrats won’t believe it
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:55 am to Death Before Disco
Texas Policy Foundation is a right-wing advocacy group funded by Koch Industries and private prison owners.
I'm no fan of electric vehicles, but I wouldn't call this a credible source of information.
RA'd for Poli board.
ETA (via WP):
I'm no fan of electric vehicles, but I wouldn't call this a credible source of information.
RA'd for Poli board.
ETA (via WP):
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 7:33 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:56 am to Death Before Disco
And having to tell your parents you’re gay
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:00 am to WB Davis
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RA'd for Poli board.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:04 am to Death Before Disco
quote:it’s because of the oil and gas depreciation and subsidies. billjamin korkstand et al where y’all at bebe??
True cost of fueling an electric vehicle may be as much as $17.33 per gallon of gas
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:16 am to WB Davis
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right-wing =|= Koch Industries
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:18 am to Death Before Disco
Sweet...I didnt know all ICE vehicles needed was gasoline. It's a good thing prices for those vehicles didn't rise at all during supply chain shortages in 2022 and that they are immune to that problem.
Thank goodness for right wing foundations publishing unbiased studies that show the real truth so we can all be informed and see things from all angles.
Thank goodness for right wing foundations publishing unbiased studies that show the real truth so we can all be informed and see things from all angles.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:18 am to WB Davis
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Texas Policy Foundation is a right-wing advocacy group funded by Koch Industries and private prison owners. I'm no fan of electric vehicles, but I wouldn't call this a credible source of information. RA'd for Poli board.
Folks, this response tells me everything in the report is true.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:19 am to Death Before Disco
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electric vehicle
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:19 am to WB Davis
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I wouldn't call this a credible source of information.
Anyone that doesn’t toe the party line is not credible guys!
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WB Davis
Ahhh, the biggest brainwashed Prog of them all!
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:20 am to WB Davis
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Texas Policy Foundation is a right-wing advocacy group funded by Koch Industries and private prison owners.
I'm no fan of electric vehicles, but I wouldn't call this a credible source of information.
ok....then prove it wrong.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:21 am to Death Before Disco
No shite...
Anyone with even half a brain could figure that out.
Which is why people of a certain political persuasion cannot.
Anyone with even half a brain could figure that out.
Which is why people of a certain political persuasion cannot.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:23 am to WB Davis
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Texas Policy Foundation is a right-wing advocacy group funded by Koch Industries and private prison owners.
I am surprised you didn't throw out the ole "Far-Right"
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:25 am to White Bear
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billjamin korkstand et al where y’all at bebe??
About to have another weekend spent defending EVs on an internet message board.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:26 am to Death Before Disco
And... still gotta generate electricity. Which is at capacity in some area... using fossil fuels for the most part.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:32 am to Death Before Disco
My buddy sent me his stats on the number of miles he drove and his fuel cost at the superchargers.
Over 4700 miles, his model 3 was cheaper to drive than my f150 by a whopping $60.
I told him I’d keep the truck.
Over 4700 miles, his model 3 was cheaper to drive than my f150 by a whopping $60.
I told him I’d keep the truck.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:39 am to Hopeful Doc
So Koch is cutting the legs out from under their 100 million $ Standard Lithium investment.
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