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re: Trial set to begin in murder of Austin Metcalf by Karmelo Anthony; Verdict is GUILTY

Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:15 pm to
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Agreed. Didn't realize until reading this thread that manslaughter was even on the table. That is so lame. Got a bad feeling that is what is going to come back.

Manslaughter wasn't on the table until like yesterday afternoon or this morning
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7725 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:17 pm to
I’d say the only two options are murder and manslaughter. No way should he be acquitted
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123607 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:18 pm to
There is a 0.0 chance he is acquitted. The defense didn’t strike a single blow (no pun intended) over the course of the trial.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10817 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:19 pm to
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reasonable person


This used to be relatively easy, but now some want to make it gender and pronouns.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24581 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:19 pm to
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IMO the only two options right now are manslaughter or acquitted. At most I think he gets 15-20 years.


it's clearly murder, question is whether the jury succumbs to the race baiters
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6673 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:21 pm to
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I think her take is even more nuanced. If a black person is charged with a violent crime, we need black people on the jury who understand that "da culture" is to react violently. You know, to see the actions through their own lens.


Let's assume she's correct for a second here and take this line of thinking to it's conclusion. If people who have no similar experiences cannot grasp the standards for which laws are written because they haven't neccesarily experienced them in the same manner that the accused has, that becomes a knife that cuts both ways. Take, for example, this case and pretend that the entire jury was black. Would that jury, by her logic, then have any capability to align themselves with the victim and the victim's family and loved ones in this case? Would they be trapped to perceive the events only through the lens of someone who looks like Karmelo? Would they be able to objectively review the evidence and render a "legitimate" verdict? If we are in agreement with the premise of the opinion piece, no they would not. She presents it, however, in a manner that is insinuating that it would be more just and more legitimate if the jury racially favored the accused and she would have presummably no issue with that dynamic if it were reality. She basically wrote all of that only to effectively tell on herself that it really isn't about the truth and objectivity at all, it's about giving Karmelo the best chance to walk free regardless of the circumstances of the crime. She's arguing against a hypothetically racially biased jury by prescribing that a racially biased jury be installed.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23225 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:22 pm to
I don't get the dooming from people about including manslaughter as an option. It seems pretty standard. The jury isn't going to opt for manslaughter after the prosecutor reminded them that "falling onto Karmelo's knife" would be the standard for that charge. They gasped when the defense suggested it. That's not a good sign.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115921 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:23 pm to
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I think her take is even more nuanced. If a black person is charged with a violent crime, we need black people on the jury who understand that "da culture" is to react violently. You know, to see the actions through their own lens.


It's good to know you can translate retarded.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130667 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:23 pm to
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IMO the only two options right now are manslaughter or acquitted. At most I think he gets 15-20 years.



I have not seen a single person that was there watching the trial every day say this
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22826 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:24 pm to
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There is a 0.0 chance he is acquitted. The defense didn’t strike a single blow (no pun intended) over the course of the trial.

At sentencing he won't receive life without, due to being 17 at the time. What kind of range do you think he will get?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42831 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Manslaughter wasn't on the table until like yesterday afternoon or this morning


OFFS
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6673 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:25 pm to
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I think her take is even more nuanced. If a black person is charged with a violent crime, we need black people on the jury who understand that "da culture" is to react violently.


But remember folks, if you are a person who perceives black culture to be a particularly violent one, you're the problem.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41425 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:25 pm to
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If it goes to tonight he's going to get off.


Troll
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52640 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:26 pm to
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At sentencing he won't receive life without, due to being 17 at the time. What kind of range do you think he will get?


I’m guessing 20 to 30 years.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23225 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:28 pm to
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But remember folks, if you are a person who perceives black culture to be a particularly violent one, you're the problem.


That's the rub, isn't it? We've got a law professor writing that we need black juries for black defendants, because they'll better understand that violence is considered a reasonable reaction when other races won't
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9908 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:28 pm to
At least 20. Anything less is a joke.
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7725 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:29 pm to
Not sure if true, but the culture folks are saying this is Austin’s dad hanging out with the judge and DA

Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6673 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:29 pm to
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That's the rub, isn't it? We've got a law professor writing that we need black juries for black defendants, because they'll better understand that violence is considered a reasonable reaction when other races won't



Seems like someone said the quiet part out loud.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10817 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:30 pm to
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without a single Black juror will determine what constitutes an objective standard for reasonableness — one that should apply to a Black teenager — based on their personal experiences and beliefs.


Racism thru lower expectations and only blacks can judge or criticize other blacks is always strong in the AWFLs / Affluent White Female Leftists.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6673 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:30 pm to
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Not sure if true, but the culture folks are saying this is Austin’s dad hanging out with the judge and DA


He could be hanging out with the risen Elvis at a Benihana for all I care. It doesn't change how blatantly obvious this case is.
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