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Treatment for infant muscle wasting disease to hit market. potential price: $2 million

Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:24 am
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:24 am
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A new treatment for an infant muscle-wasting disease is about to go on sale at a potential cost of $2 million, a record price tag likely to fuel the continuing scrutiny of how companies price their drugs and how insurers pay for them. Novartis AG NVS has yet to set a price for the gene therapy called Zolgensma, but executives say the drug’s potential to cure spinal muscular atrophy, an inherited disease that typically kills babies before they turn two, justifies a seven-figure price.


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Gene therapies target diseases that result from a faulty gene by introducing a working version into the body. They are attracting interest, both for their ability to cure otherwise devastating illnesses in one treatment and also for their high cost. Luxturna, the only gene therapy on sale in the U.S. so far to treat a form of inherited sight loss, costs $850,000 a patient. The issue is gaining in importance as more gene therapies go on sale. The Food and Drug Administration expects to approve 10 to 20 gene and cell therapies a year by 2025.


Even at $2M, most of us would probably be willing to pay for their own children.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:30 am to
Seems cruel but these people don't work for free either



ETA: I'm not saying it's right, this is 100% because they know the insurance companies will either cover it or the government will subsidize it. It's a cruel circle
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 6:39 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:32 am to
I hope the person in charge of pricing it is tortured by ISIS.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:32 am to
Is 2mil what they charge insurance?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:34 am to
So they’ll sell drugs so babies can get swole but it’s still illegal for a doctor to give medicine to help a man build muscle?
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
11580 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:35 am to
Self pay discount: 1.5 mil
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:37 am to
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I hope the person in charge of pricing it is tortured by ISIS.


So you'd rather not have the drug on the market?
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:42 am to
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So you'd rather not have the drug on the market?



At that price, it may as well not be on the market. Insurance companies won’t pay it. Only the wealthiest of the wealthy will be able to pay for it.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:44 am to
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At that price, it may as well not be on the market. Insurance companies won’t pay it. Only the wealthiest of the wealthy will be able to pay for it.


The market will take care of that then. If it's too expensive and price can be brought down, Novartis will work for a way to reduce the price.

If the price can't be brought down and no one pays, it'll be off the market.

Capitalism ftw
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:47 am to
You do realize why they charge what they charge right?

It is an extremely rare disease. They put a ton of money into R&D.

Small market. Tons of money spent developing it.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:52 am to
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you'd rather not have the drug on the market?

That’s not what I meant at all. As a father I can’t imagine the medication needed to save my child existing but not being able to afford it.
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:54 am to
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You do realize why they charge what they charge right?

It is an extremely rare disease. They put a ton of money into R&D.

Small market. Tons of money spent developing it.




8b ppl in this world, I doubt its rare enough to justify the cost. My guess is that they need to milk the market before generic drugs come out.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:56 am to
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8b ppl in this world, I doubt its rare enough to justify the cost. My guess is that they need to milk the market before generic drugs come out.


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Novartis AG NVS has yet to set a price for the gene therapy



Great guess
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:57 am to
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That’s not what I meant at all. As a father I can’t imagine the medication needed to save my child existing but not being able to afford it.


Then you must be for a fully socialized medical system. That's the only way you're going to guarantee every infant is able to get the treatment.

As we all know, socialism = innovation all throughout history
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:02 am to
I am usually in the drug company’s corner but if they are pricing this because they can hold people “hostage” with the life of their child instead of some sort of cost/amortization basis that is in humane and the decision maker should die a painful death.

If it really costs $2mm (including a reasonable margin) that’s one thing but if they are basically price gouging that’s another thing.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:04 am to
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That’s not what I meant at all. As a father I can’t imagine the medication needed to save my child existing but not being able to afford it.

If you woulda worked more turnarounds instead of leaving for piano recitals and travel ball games you could afford it like the rest of us
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:06 am to
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If it really costs $2mm (including a reasonable margin)


I'd be curious to see what the actual cost is to the customer.

The list price may be $2mm, but with insurance and coupons it may be less (still incredibly expensive though, I'd imagine).
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5712 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:08 am to
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At that price, it may as well not be on the market. Insurance companies won’t pay it. Only the wealthiest of the wealthy will be able to pay for it.


It’s okay for there to be some things available only to the wealthiest who can afford it. If whoever is selling it could reduce the price and still make profit, they would to increase the volume of their sales. There’s a reason 200 ft yachts are only affordable to the wealthy.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:10 am to
How much did the drug cost to develop?

Miracle drugs just fall from the sky?
Posted by LSU Tigershark
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10543 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:10 am to
$15 copay?
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