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re: Toyota Tundra or GMC SIERRA 1500

Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:33 am to
quote:

F150


Body man suggested to me to stay away from F150s. Those aluminum bodies are trash and will fold like a can.

How true is that?
This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:33 am to
I have 2018 Denali

I love most everything about it except the 8 speed transmission

2nd gear is trash

the 6 speed was smooth as glass

then they kept trying to increase fuel economy...with the 8

heard the 10 speed is okay

the latest GMC body style and interior I do not like

the Tundra update will be interesting..

Toyota is a hard to beat on quality

that's just the truth

but I've loved all 3 of my GMC trucks

conflicted

right now, there is not once new GMC denali to be had here in Cary NC...last I checked...1 diesel was left



Posted by HenryParsons
Member since Aug 2018
1547 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:33 am to
Meaning it hasn’t been updated since 2007.
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11355 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:34 am to
I'd go with GMC. The tundra currently seems a bit.... basic. Plus I think the Sierras look better.
Posted by Lsu101205
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2014
3078 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:35 am to
quote:

I'd like to always buy American, but when it comes down between a GM product and a Toyota, I'd have to go with Toyota simply for reliability and endurance.


Not sure about 2021, but 2020 and older Tundras had more American made parts than any other full size truck. Around 73% of the parts (engine included) were made in America.

Non full size its the Ford Ranger that wins.

FWIW my 2006 Tundra has 225k miles on it without any major issues thus far.
This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by Goat Rider
Boulder, CO
Member since Feb 2018
947 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:39 am to
Tundra all day.
Posted by Buddy the Tiger
Member since Nov 2018
106 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:39 am to
Loving my ram 1500. I have no loyalty to any of the brands. Easily the best interior. At this point, all the trucks look nice on the outside and have enough power to do what you need it to. Go see it for yourself, I’d bet you love it
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15102 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Motor trend rated 2021 Tundra as the worst full size truck. Car and driver also rated it last


I'm guessing the Tundra was rated last due to climate change and gas mileage
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:42 am to
Whichever one is available at the dealership. It’s 2021. Good luck.
Posted by foj1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
3745 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:43 am to
RAM/thread
Posted by Gangsacked
Member since Jan 2019
41 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:46 am to
I would not buy any new vehicle with active fuel management (cylinder shutdown) due to all the lifter issues. All the mpg savings you get with the gm are offset by the oil consumption and post warranty engine troubles.

Buy the Toyota.
This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 11:50 am
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83372 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Whichever one is available at the dealership. It’s 2021. Good luck.


This

It’s a horrible time to be in the market for a new vehicle
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:49 am to
quote:

I would not buy any new vehicle with active fuel management (cylinder shutdown) due to all the lifter issues. All the mpg savings you get with the gm are offset by the engine troubles


They canceled that feature after May 2021 because of the microchip shortage.
Posted by Gangsacked
Member since Jan 2019
41 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:51 am to
And the epa will mandate install of AFM chips by the dealers when they become available.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9139 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:54 am to
I love my GMC.

Very comfortable and gets decent mileage.

I agree, buy a Tundra, better stick up on converters.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17708 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:54 am to
toyota
no transmission issues
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:06 pm to
Tundra easily.

While I do love the current tundras, the body and interior update are coming this fall, so you may want to wait
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

They canceled that feature after May 2021 because of the microchip shortage.


Correct, but only for the 5.3 ECOTEC motor in the GM trucks. The 6.2 still has that shite, as do the 5.0 Fords, 5.7 Rams, and 6.4 Rams. If you don’t opt for a V8 in a domestic truck you’re stuck with one of these new, yet to be proven reliable, turbo engines.

Avoid avoid avoid. If you want something you’ll keep for a long time (10 years/100k minimum), get the Tundra and live with the crappy gas mileage.

You want the truth about your best chances at buying a reliable long lasting vehicle? Here’s the list:

- no CVT
- no forced induction
- no first model years
- minimal bells and whistles (digital gauges and touchscreen that controls everything? Nope!)
- buy Toyota and stick to an “ol’ reliable” model (Tundra, 4Runner, Rav4, Corolla non CVT, Camry, Avalon RIP, highlander, sequoia etc.)
- go to CarComplaints.com to make sure they haven’t snuck in any new changes. For example, the long reliable gold standard Tacoma recently got a new engine and transmission that sucks. Scratch it off the list.

ETA: before anyone jumps in with, “my wife’s boyfriend’s BMW has 60k and is dead reliable! Hell my 2017 Silverado has 30k without a hiccup, it’ll get to 100k easily before it wears out!” With how expensive cars are now, we’re talking about 100k being the minimum, and ideally you’d keep your vehicle for 15-20 years without major headache. Gtfo if you’re bragging about hitting 90k before you had to have the whole CVT replaced.
This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by HenryParsons
Member since Aug 2018
1547 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

the Tundra update will be interesting..


quote:

It’s the Space Jam half-ton hauler. Every wacky shape exaggerated, each insane detail fighting every eccentric flourish, and all behind a giant grille upon which a whole herd of cattle could be simultaneously barbecued. Someone at Toyota designed the 2022 Tundra large pickup, but it looks like it came out of Warner Bros. Animation. Pure Looney Tunes.
This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3453 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

If you buy a tundra, order theft protection plates for a couple hundred dollars now.


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