re: Toyota Land Cruiser discontinued after 2021

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Toyota uses an open source entertainment & navigation software that will work with any phone instead of being limited to Apple and you can update your own software in a few minutes yourself.

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In other words, one of the worlds largest car companies is too cheap to pay the licensing fees for a highly desirable feature that is standard equipment on almost all vehicles in 2020.

Toyota doesn’t want to sell more LC’s here. In other parts of the world they sell a more Spartan/base one & a great trucklit version. It’s too bad, they could sell the base version here for off/ roading enthusiasts. It’s truly the best overlanding vehicle on the planet.

The major components are designed to last 25 years in a 3rd world country. The Tahara plant that manufactures them is legendary in its own right...plant workers have to take extra dexterity tests in order to have the privilege of assembling LC’s.

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It’s too bad, they could sell the base version here for off/ roading enthusiasts.

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There arent enough of these exist

And of those that do exist they couldnt even break one if they tried

From what I have seen half the fun of those people is breaking their Jeep down on a designated course and then talking about how hard they went.

Its not a necessarily fun car even in base because you dont get to jack it up and spend 20k on unnecessary swag which is all the United States off road market cares about really.

Most of the “roads” I travel with mine are just washed out creek beds leading to the river. Some gravel, but it’s not like that’s been maintained and scraped.

Crossing the Tuckasegee and Hiawassee rivers are common occurrences around here.

I think it’s fun

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Why get a $90K land cruiser when you can get an $75k Yukon.

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If you keep the LC long enough the cost per mile will be lower.

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Most of the “roads” I travel with mine are just washed out creek beds leading to the river. Some gravel, but it’s not like that’s been maintained and scraped.

Crossing the Tuckasegee and Hiawassee rivers are common occurrences around here.

I think it’s fun

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But thats the thing

They really arent supposed to be fun cars

They are straight up necessary cars to get food to people to survive in a lot of places

There isnt anything fun about that. These are people that need to get from place A to place B in a car that will never break in the middle of nowhere.

If I could find a way to get a early 2000s Toyota Hilux here I would abuse the frick out of it for fun though

Love the 100! I need one

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Sequoia half the price and hits the same target

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From the article:

[quote]Around the time of the 80 series, considered by some to be the best vehicle Toyota ever made, Toyota began to notice that the people who bought Land Cruisers weren’t rough and tumble types (does that mean they like to roll around in rocks? I don’t know) but were more likely dentists, surgeons, basketball players and so on.

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Ever since then the Land Cruiser J wagon in the US has been on an ever pampering, cosseting trajectory and in 2008 a new model, the J200, was born. Even still, in chasing the money of the well-to-do US buyer by adding luxury the J wagon still retained its authentic roots;

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Toyota, in its infinite wisdom, has decided that Americans only want a fully dressed 200 and so that’s what we get. Its 80 grand+ and although that sounds like a lot of money, as your resident Land Cruiser nuttist, I’m here to try and explain where all that money goes.

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It's a great article and really worth your time. It is also concomitantly what made and broke the landcruiser.

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Sad. But the new prices are ridiculous especially for an outdated interior and engine.

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This right here!

When I looked inside of a new one, I was like...are they serious with this interior for that price? what a shame for such an awesome vehicle to be taken in this direction, thus prohibiting sales and leading to its demise.

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Love the 100! I need one

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Do it. Prices are starting to get obscene for a 20 year old truck, but if you are patient and willing to travel a bit, you can get a great one. Got mine for a little bit over 8k with @150k miles. All interior bits work and work well, and body in great shape. I changed the timing belt and water pump when I first got it along with all fluids and heater T’s.

I was gonna change out the crank and cam seals but the factory ones still looked mint when it was opened up. With basic maintenance this thing will go another 150k no problem.