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re: Tornado outbreak, 94 dead, Upwards of 100 unaccounted for search/rescue & cleanup ongoing
Posted on 12/11/21 at 9:51 am to East Coast Band
Posted on 12/11/21 at 9:51 am to East Coast Band
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To the people downvoting, please provide evidence or proof that a winter tornado outbreak is unheralded or even rare, we averege one every other year. Yes including violent long track tornados.
Just now seeing that there are folks who have a pathetically short memory when it comes to our secondary southern severe weather season.
This has long been an established truth in the southeast in particular as so often with the dynamics and path of the low pressure systems and cold fronts for the changing of seasons will cause set ups that spur severe weather. It’s not even debatable as far as truth goes. Maybe debatable to someone who is ignorant or dead set on pushing some climate change agenda BS.
Fact is that when the ingredients come together which they rather frequently do in the late fall, we absolutely have a secondary severe weather season. You don’t even have to have super high levels of CAPE to get a cold season event going. Now while this event last night was a bit on the extreme side of this, it simply by no means is unheard of.
Those who disagree and are downvoting should spend their time better stop being a tool and start educating themselves. Of course this doesn’t work for contrarians or hacks.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 10:01 am
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Posted on 12/11/21 at 9:52 am to BaddestAndvari
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if it wasn't for family and a sense of community / friends I have in this area I would have moved away long ago.
This is why I came back to SWLA a few years ago and what do I get my first full year back? Two direct hurricane hits, a few close calls, a 100-year flood, and an ice storm. Oh BTW, we had a tornado a month ago that ripped the fascia off of my house that I had just repaired from the hurricanes.
Plane tickets to visit family are cheaper than the aggravation and worry and I can buy a lot of tickets for what my named storm deductible is. Also, having to worry about flood elevation changes and if one day FEMA will mark your home in a flood zone killing your property value. I know a few people this happened to over the years.
Life is too short for all of this.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 9:54 am to Pisco
Prayers to all impacted by these storms. Glad to see you made it through Pisco.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 9:54 am to BaddestAndvari
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The tornado response and detection systems we have in north Alabama are basically the best in the nation as well.
I hope it’s incredible, but that’s not true.
Oklahoma is the standard for both news and government storm reporting. The OU school of Meteorology is THE place in the US for such a degree. And the Storm Prediction Center (SPC) for the entire United States is in Norman, OK.
Hell Google “Gary England”. Long time Oklahoma weather guy who was first to integrate Doplar radar for commercial use AND the first to have weather alerts to interrupt TV programming.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 9:57 am to RockChalkTiger
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Winter tornadoes are not unprecedented—there’s a reason we call it the “Second Season.” What is unprecedented is the increasing frequency and severity. What are the Gulf SSTs right now? Where did that beast last night get all its energy? Welcome to the new normal
No there is absolutely no uptick in severity and such. These severe weather events come and they go. Some have a better set up than others and as such cause more/stronger storms but that’s just random natural cycles not some human instigated global warming or climate change nonsense.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:03 am to Crimson1st
I am in Middle TN and a tornado touch down right by my house. We didn't have any damage other than some limbs, but there were about 12 houses destroyed near us and a bunch more with damage.
Our city was heavily damaged by the March 2020 tornado, the May 2020 derecho, and the May 2021 flood. We lost some elderly friends in the March 2020 tornadoes. It has been a lot to take in.
Our city was heavily damaged by the March 2020 tornado, the May 2020 derecho, and the May 2021 flood. We lost some elderly friends in the March 2020 tornadoes. It has been a lot to take in.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:04 am to stout
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As beautiful as parts of Alabama may be, I would never live there and deal with both
There's probably not a specific spot that has both at its severity. As you go closer to the coast, typically the tornadoes are typically much weaker.
Around Central Alabama the hurricanes are generally weakened below severe levels no matter how intense along the coast they were.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:05 am to Crimson1st
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but that’s just random natural cycles
Thats all it is.
People tend to forget that record keeping of weather was not all that accurate just 100 years ago. We have a very small amount of data relative to the age of the earth to make predictions on which is one of many reasons man-made climate change is a scam and people that believe it are idiots.
Any "science" that tries to look back further than our more accurate record-keeping from the past about 75 years is a guess at best and constantly contradicts itself.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 10:25 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:10 am to stout
Dang stout, that’s horrible luck. I didn’t realize you were impacted by the tornado around circle K at Nelson and Ham Reid. Sad for anyone to leave SWLA but understandable given the circumstances.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:11 am to stout
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:14 am to bikerack
Donated a hundy to Samaritan’s Purse. Thanks for the link. My friends here from Mayfield were planning to fly home for Christmas, but sounds like they’re leaving sooner than planned and driving the truck to help.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:16 am to sledgehammer
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Dang stout, that’s horrible luck. I didn’t realize you were impacted by the tornado around circle K at Nelson and Gauthier.
Obviously not nearly as bad as other people but aggravating to have to repair things on your house again.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:16 am to stout
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This is why I came back to SWLA a few years ago and what do I get my first full year back? Two direct hurricane hits, a few close calls, a 100-year flood, and an ice storm. Oh BTW, we had a tornado a month ago that ripped the fascia off of my house that I had just repaired from the hurricanes.
Plane tickets to visit family are cheaper than the aggravation and worry and I can buy a lot of tickets for what my named storm deductible is. Also, having to worry about flood elevation changes and if one day FEMA will mark your home in a flood zone killing your property value. I know a few people this happened to over the years.
Sounds like it is time to move to the People's Republic of Florida. Home of Lord Desantis and King Trump
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:17 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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James Spann
@spann
The line of storms moving through North/Central Alabama remains well below severe limits. However, a rogue storm over South Alabama northeast of Greenville show signs of producing a tornado. A tornado warning remains in effect for parts of Butler and Crenshaw counties
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:18 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Governor Beshear is here in Mayfield. Looks like Brandon will be sending in more reinforcements.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:19 am to Pisco
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:20 am to tiger91
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In towns like Mayfield how do you even start? Where do you go? Chances are if you do have family there they have the same damage. No water. No electricity.
Where do you even start??
I think these circumstances are similar to the widespread destruction caused by hurricanes and people who live outside the areas where these things happen have a hard time understanding how complete the devastation is. It's not a matter of just "sucking it up" and digging yourself out. If ever there was a need for help from state and federal resources, this is it.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:23 am to LSUBFA83
Like I said in the other thread about Mayfield, The town may never recover from this. People may just pack up and leave. Usually, a small town like that doesn't have much of an anchor to it (industry, jobs, etc) so many people may just leave and never look back.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:25 am to stout
I would disagree. Google “Windsor Colorado tornado”. That town is stronger than ever right now.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:31 am to ColoradoAg03
I hope they do recover BTW. Small older towns like Mayfield are great places. As much as some towns in LA that are similar to Mayfield get made fun of on this board, they are really great towns for families.
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