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Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:46 pm to Dlawnboy
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TOPS should require folks to stay in the state for 2 years
That should be easy to keep track of.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:49 pm to lsu13lsu
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At a minimum it should be a loan of some kind forgiven upon completion of school.
No it shouldn’t. If you want to forgive loans then do it like towns and school systems across the country do it. Put in ten years on a job and after paying for ten years then loans are forgiven. Don’t just give it to them for completing a degree. Require them to work and be productive in your state first and then forgive.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:56 pm to VABuckeye
Downvote away. It’s a terrible system in the way it’s currently implemented. If you don’t make people have a personal investment in it it will be abused and it won’t work. Hold the people that benefit from it accountable.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:01 pm to Suntiger
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It needs to be tweaked IMO.
1) Payback student loans for students after they graduate (instead of as they attend)
2) pay for each year they remain domiciled in Louisiana (makes sure they stay here)
Actually...
They could implement this by making your TOPS payback 100% deductible from your LA taxes. If you stay in state and pay off your loan, then you deduct the repayment from your LA income tax return. Move out of state, no deduction and you repay the loan or they rape your credit.
That would actually work. I can't believe I haven't thought of that before.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:03 pm to VABuckeye
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Downvote away. It’s a terrible system in the way it’s currently implemented. If you don’t make people have a personal investment in it it will be abused and it won’t work. Hold the people that benefit from it accountable.
It's a waste of taxpayer money if the person moves out of state immediately after graduating. I get that they (or their parents) paid something into it but probably not close to what they are getting in return. In some cases it's a bad investment for the state/taxpayer.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:04 pm to MC5601
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Let's put it this way: a kid with a 3.5 GPA and a 27 ACT score would not get into Texas or Texas A&M. That same kid gets nearly a full ride to LSU
Fees are nearly 1900 a semester at LSU. Then have books and cost of living. Wouldn’t say TOPS is a full ride.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:20 pm to MC5601
We should give TOPS to certain people to encourage them to leave our state.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:28 pm to MC5601
You offer no reasons for your TOPS opposition, just “it’s no good.” 
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:34 pm to MC5601
The TOPS program should be reduced significantly ONLY with a commensurate reduction of funding in state social give away programs that are out of control.
Otherwise, we are only increasing the size of government without any benefit to the taxpayers of the state.
Otherwise, we are only increasing the size of government without any benefit to the taxpayers of the state.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:46 pm to MC5601
TOPS doesn't need to go.
What is needs is real standards.
What is needs is real standards.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:03 pm to MC5601
TOPS needs to make its standards more stringent.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:38 pm to MC5601
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If you wonder why LSU is always broke and lagging behind, TOPS is the answer
Can't possibly be having way too many public universities or having a fiscal system that hits healthcare and higher ed every time the price of oil falls.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:46 pm to MC5601
TOPS was intended to keep the best and brightest in LA. That only works if you force kids to finish their degrees in a decent field, and to stay in-state post grad for some period of time afterwards. I watched way too many kids leave for Texas after undergrad, either for jobs or further education.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:48 pm to MC5601
The frick? This is a terrible thread
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:50 pm to MC5601
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Let's put it this way: a kid with a 3.5 GPA and a 27 ACT score would not get into Texas or Texas A&M. That same kid gets nearly a full ride to LSU
This is absolutely false. I made a 32 and still didn't get full ride.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:53 pm to Sentrius
quote:my daughter received TOPS at the highest level. She completed her engineering degree. She started her first job in Houston this morning.
TOPS would be a great program if Louisiana was not such a terrible state to land a high paying job that's tailored to their degrees.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 9:00 pm to MC5601
Eliminating TOPS would bankrupt every state school in Louisiana including LSU and for that reason I approve of dismantling the program.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 9:11 pm to MC5601
You are a moron and I don't feel like typing out why. Just believe me.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 9:18 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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This is absolutely false. I made a 32 and still didn't get full ride.
You got 100% of your tuition covered plus an $800 stipend plus the Tiger Excellence award. Your fee bill should have been like $1k a semester if you had no other schlorships
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