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re: TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce

Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41661 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:12 pm to
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How'd those movie industry incentives work out for y'all?


It clearly hasn’t worked at all.
Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2566 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:12 pm to
I graduated from LSU in 1982 and have lived and worked in Houston since then. There were no jobs in LA in chemical engineering when I graduated but there were plenty in TX.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147983 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:13 pm to
Are people still melting over the governors race back in La?
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1218 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:18 pm to
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a governor that knows how to actually grow the economy rather than just tax more.


Yeah because past Republican goveners were so good at this. Election is over champ
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41184 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:19 pm to
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Yea their needs to be some overhauls to TOPS. I don’t know what the answer is but it’s not working as intended right now.


That’s because the politicians got a hold of it and totally fricked it up
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41661 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:20 pm to
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is thread has a lot of freeloaders that are proud of ripping off the taxpayers and bragging about how they got their taxpayer funded degree and moved out of state.

Just incredibly disgusting.

And a lot of those welfare queens call themselves "conservative".

A great example of why I won't be upset if TOPS eventually goes away.


I disagree, people used TOPS because it was there. It’s no difference than a conservative taking legal tax deductions or using legal loopholes in the tax code.

You’d be an idiot not to use TOPS if it was your best option and you’d be an idiot not to take a job with a situation favorable to yourself.

La. Needs to compete with other states to attract businesses. Educating our citizenry helps, but there are other factors too snd we don’t compete well in those areas.
Posted by Louie T
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2006
36584 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:23 pm to
No, baw. You’re a terrible conservative. A real conservative is expected to float handouts to the lower income portions of society into perpetuity while never actually benefitting from any policy decisions.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41184 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:24 pm to
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That's where the higher taxes come into play. Businesses are gonna start flocking to this state any day now.


Is TOPS taxpayer funded? Didn’t it start out as privately funded?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:25 pm to
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It clearly hasn’t worked at all.


Correct.

It was Jay Dardenne’s baby and precisely why I refused to support him over Vitter. And I suspect he is why JBE clearly has made no moves to end it.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:28 pm to
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Are people still melting over the governors race back in La?


No. I’m just pointing out the irony of someone complaining about the terrible economy and job market in Louisiana after having just voted for someone who wants to keep up that same status quo.

You get what you vote for.

Couldn’t be more simple than that.
Posted by BrutalBengal
Dallas
Member since Jan 2005
4075 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:30 pm to
Some of y’all act like Brownback’s Kansas Experiment never happened. It’s not like you can just cut taxes and magic occurs.

I’m not saying LA should make itself less welcoming to businesses looking to potentially move, I just don’t think tax cuts are a magic panacea for all economic ills.

It would also be nice to see LA focus on creating industries instead of just prostituting itself hoping someone will deem it worthy to move their business into town to save a percentage point or two in taxes. Everyone here likes to shite on California due to the companies that are leaving, but no one ever mentions the massive number of companies that start and grow quickly there every single year. They don’t give a damn about who leaves because they have another hundred growing exponentally.

All I’m saying is it isn’t as simple as if you have a D or R next to your name. It’s a lot more complicated than that and people have to quit seeing everything through a strictly political lense. It isn’t healthy or helpful.
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
The wind-swept plains
Member since Oct 2019
1026 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:30 pm to
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frick TOPS and frick funding these turncoats that leave the state.

The state can't get its shite together and create jobs for these people but they're expected to be loyal and stay poor working some garbage job.

TOPS is a great idea that cannot work if the job outlook is poor. Simple as.
Posted by Louie T
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2006
36584 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:32 pm to
It’s definitely a tough row to hoe; it’s been in a downward spiral for too long to have one term magically reverse course.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 6:00 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:33 pm to
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Couldn’t be more simple than that.

I don't know. There are a lot of simple people in this thread.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:45 pm to
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I disagree


Ok.

quote:

You’d be an idiot not to use TOPS if it was your best option


Sometimes the true test of someone’s character and ideology is a choice for a perfectly legal activity between what’s gratifying, expedient and what’s right and preserves your principles.

It may be legal to do that but I just can’t defend it on a moral and philosophical basis knowing the goal of the program.

If you take TOPS and then immediately leave the state, that’s ripping off taxpayers.

If you disagree that’s fine. Just means we have different thresholds of what’s acceptable to both of us.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72817 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:50 pm to
Why would anyone in their right mind stay when in most fields they can make >25% more per year just 4 hours down the road?
Posted by whg335
Member since Dec 2011
808 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:50 pm to
TOPS has nothing to do with the economy and job market in Louisiana and vice versa
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:58 pm to
Klark Kent how's life in Spring area treating you?

Glad to see a glimmer of positivity in this thread regarding Houston area.

There have thousands on this site alone who probably have moved to Houston from Louisiana for a better quality of life yet some want to continually bash these folks.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20624 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:00 pm to
yes -like Jindal?
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:03 pm to
Had a friend that got some kind of scholarship to get a teaching degree in Mississippi. In order to get it, she had to sign a contract that after graduation, she would teach in Mississippi for 3 or 4 years after graduation before she could go anywhere else.
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