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Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:22 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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The Blackhawk was out of Belvoir
Where had it gone? Belvoir is south/down river of the city and DC, near Mount Vernon. If the maps are right it was upriver coming down.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:23 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Captain: Jonathan Campos - 34 years old
First Office: Sam Lilley - 28 years old
Thats a pretty seasoned crew for a regional airline like PSA.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:24 pm to waiting4saturday
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Thats a pretty seasoned crew for a regional airline like PSA.
not determined by age
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:24 pm to Darth_Vader
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If tweet fails to load, click here. First I've seen the airspace depiction for Route 4 which the helo was on.
It's capped at 200ft MSL N of Wilson Bridge which is well south of the airport. This gives context to how helos are able to operate safely ivo airport traffic while remaining low level and along East side of Potomac. I would take ATC track altitude w a grain of salt but also explains why briefs today repeatedly mentioned altitude issue.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:25 pm to 777Tiger
Believe the pilot had 5 years experience and FO had 2 years experience.
Not great, but not like rookies
Not great, but not like rookies
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:25 pm to waiting4saturday
Not sure if it's been brought up, but there have been multiple articles on near collision events at airports in recent years. Those interviewed say the big issue is understaffing and inadequate training for ATC.
Bringing DEI earns him brownie points with his minions, but not even remotely the issue.
Bringing DEI earns him brownie points with his minions, but not even remotely the issue.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:27 pm to AHM21
I know this will get downvoted, but the problem with Trump is that his ego is his worst enemy. His main concern with everything is "what will people say about me because of this" and he goes on the defense and he uses the things that he knows a lot of people will buy into. A lot of people think DEI is a problem (and in a lot of cases it absolutely is) so to defend himself he goes to something that people will associate with the last administration. But this is a situation where I don't think the average person was thinking "it happened under this president so its their fault". At least I didn't. That wasn't even a thought that came across my mind.
This is a situation where he needs to show that the white house is taking serious while showing compassion for the victims involved. That's all that is needed from him on this situation. People want to know that whatever happened, its being taken serious and that they can go on a flight and feel safe.
The family members of the victims would appreciate any type of condolence or reassurance that everything is being done to recover their loved ones body, etc. You just can't get up there and start throwing out excuses.
This is a situation where he needs to show that the white house is taking serious while showing compassion for the victims involved. That's all that is needed from him on this situation. People want to know that whatever happened, its being taken serious and that they can go on a flight and feel safe.
The family members of the victims would appreciate any type of condolence or reassurance that everything is being done to recover their loved ones body, etc. You just can't get up there and start throwing out excuses.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:28 pm to OweO
ETA: I apologize. OweO asked a fair question
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:28 pm to IT_Dawg
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Believe the pilot had 5 years experience and FO had 2 years experience.
Not great, but not like rookies
Ya, at some point pilots have to sit in actual planes with actual people on them to get experience
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:29 pm to sicboy
Just heard helo pilot ID on Fox. Might explain the DEI narrative from WH. For the record, I have served with quite a few great female pilots and controllers.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:30 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Just heard helo pilot ID on Fox. Might explain the DEI narrative from WH. For the record, I have served with quite a few great female pilots and controllers.
Congrats to tBoat.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:32 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Might explain the DEI narrative from WH
The reason for the narrative is they have been a one note act for a long time. Blaming everything on socialism. Blaming everything on communism. Blaming everything on CRT.
It's an argument that requires no thought and they know their followers won't question them once.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:34 pm to sicboy
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It's an argument that requires no thought
sort of like your stance on COVID and the COVID “shot” ?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:35 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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It's capped at 200ft MSL N of Wilson Bridge which is well south of the airport. This gives context to how helos are able to operate safely ivo airport traffic while remaining low level and along East side of Potomac.
The collision happened above 300 ft. Blackhawk was operating too high and atc failed to notice.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:35 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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For the record, I have served with quite a few great female pilots and controllers.
Im sure there are great ones
But because of DEI there are also under qualified not so great ones while qualified people get passed over
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:37 pm to Cosmo
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Im sure there are great ones
they've gotten much better over the years
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:38 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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First I've seen the airspace depiction for Route 4 which the helo was on. It's capped at 200ft MSL N of Wilson Bridge which is well south of the airport. This gives context to how helos are able to operate safely ivo airport traffic while remaining low level and along East side of Potomac. I would take ATC track altitude w a grain of salt but also explains why briefs today repeatedly mentioned altitude issue.
So, if I’m understanding this correctly, the crash happened because the Army helicopter was flying at too high altitude and came into the pathway of the incoming airliner.
So how does this happen? I’m no pilot, but should the pilot of the chopper not have an altimeter to let them know their altitude? Also, does ATC not have the ability to tell the altitude of the chopper and possibly warn them they’ve gone too high and are in the pathway of airport traffic?
ETA: what’s objectionable about the questions I’ve asked here?
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:41 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Just heard helo pilot ID on Fox. Might explain the DEI narrative from WH. For the record, I have served with quite a few great female pilots and controllers.
What was the name?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:42 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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what happened to keeping politics out of the thread?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you take the time to post the ' pimp ' emoji and comment about the appearance of a female in this thread?
Inappropriate or no?
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