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To what extent are you worried about AI/AGI creating really serious job market shock?
Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:57 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:57 am
Preface, I try to remember that human beings are self-important and dramatic by nature, and we like to think that something really huge and impactful will happen during our lifetimes. For example, there are plenty of Pop Tart eaters on the political board who are convinced that the United States is on the brink of some sort of civil war or revolution or dissolution of our union.
I also try to remember that our job market and economy survived past technological advances. For example, half the county here were farmers 80 years ago, and now nobody farms.
And yet I still can't help but worry about AI and AGI creating mass unemployment and a serious shock to our economy. It's hard to think of a vocation or job sector that won't be impacted. Even the "learn to work with your hands" and "become a plumber" people will be impacted, because the talented young people who previously would've learned to code will now apprentice and ultimately start their own plumbing companies, and you'll see three or four times more plumbing trucks on the road with the 3,000 dollar graphic wraps. Women will feel it too. Even prissy woman jobs like HR and administrative assistants will be hurt. The public school system is the largest employer in a lot of the counties around here, and what public education will look like in 10 years, who knows. Truck drivers are royally screwed.
All the dinosaurs in Congress, they won't react until one too many of their grandkids or their friends' grandkids get laid off and displaced by AI, and only then will it become real, and by that point we'll be playing defense.
In closing, I don't know where it will happen, but I have a really bad feeling that it won't be good, and I never get bad feelings about the future.
I also try to remember that our job market and economy survived past technological advances. For example, half the county here were farmers 80 years ago, and now nobody farms.
And yet I still can't help but worry about AI and AGI creating mass unemployment and a serious shock to our economy. It's hard to think of a vocation or job sector that won't be impacted. Even the "learn to work with your hands" and "become a plumber" people will be impacted, because the talented young people who previously would've learned to code will now apprentice and ultimately start their own plumbing companies, and you'll see three or four times more plumbing trucks on the road with the 3,000 dollar graphic wraps. Women will feel it too. Even prissy woman jobs like HR and administrative assistants will be hurt. The public school system is the largest employer in a lot of the counties around here, and what public education will look like in 10 years, who knows. Truck drivers are royally screwed.
All the dinosaurs in Congress, they won't react until one too many of their grandkids or their friends' grandkids get laid off and displaced by AI, and only then will it become real, and by that point we'll be playing defense.
In closing, I don't know where it will happen, but I have a really bad feeling that it won't be good, and I never get bad feelings about the future.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:01 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:00 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I'm already seeing fairly complex jobs become unnecessary.
One example in particular I'll give.. a team of 8 people can output about 80-100 units each in a day. They have been testing an AI that will ultimately replace them and it'll do at least a thousand in like an hour. That team will be dropped down to 1 or 2 people to manually QC the data and write some reports but that's it. And that story will happen over and over again everywhere.
One example in particular I'll give.. a team of 8 people can output about 80-100 units each in a day. They have been testing an AI that will ultimately replace them and it'll do at least a thousand in like an hour. That team will be dropped down to 1 or 2 people to manually QC the data and write some reports but that's it. And that story will happen over and over again everywhere.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:03 am to VolSquatch
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I'm already seeing fairly complex jobs become unnecessary.
One example in particular I'll give.. a team of 8 people can output about 80-100 units each. They have been testing an AI that will ultimately replace them and it'll do at least a thousand in like an hour.
A guy at my poker game came in a few weeks ago and told the table "Well, I'm unemployed." He was an IT guy at a larger loan company. It's happening in real time. It just hasn't sunk in with most people.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:07 am to Violent Hip Swivel
AI stacked! Larry Leo fricked!
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:11 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Not worried. I’m retired and fully invested in AI.
There will only be rich and poor. Position yourself to be in the former.
There will only be rich and poor. Position yourself to be in the former.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:11 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I’m worried, but I’m more worried about the competence of the population being degraded due to an overreliance on AI.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:12 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:15 am to Violent Hip Swivel
It’s a deadly serious problem. Nobody seems to be addressing it
All this bullshite talk about “oh it’ll create other opportunities just like in the Industrial Revolution” is willful disillusionment. Every sector is boned.
Except hvac techs and welders. The humanoid robots have a long way to go before replacing those guys.
All this bullshite talk about “oh it’ll create other opportunities just like in the Industrial Revolution” is willful disillusionment. Every sector is boned.
Except hvac techs and welders. The humanoid robots have a long way to go before replacing those guys.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:15 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Another example.
I taught myself a programming code called Python a few years back to use for various functions.
Took me a couple months to get fully up to speed with it and python developers can make decent money.
Today I could simply pull up a programming AI, type in what I want the code to do and it will spit out a fully functioning code block written in python with zero knowledge of the coding language.
Human input in -> python code out.
Anyone going into CS right now should be highly concerned because it’s about to become all about the “what” the software does and a hell of a lot less about executing the “how”.
Same principal is going to apply to reading scans in a medical setting and anything else with predictable inputs generating objectively definable outputs.
I taught myself a programming code called Python a few years back to use for various functions.
Took me a couple months to get fully up to speed with it and python developers can make decent money.
Today I could simply pull up a programming AI, type in what I want the code to do and it will spit out a fully functioning code block written in python with zero knowledge of the coding language.
Human input in -> python code out.
Anyone going into CS right now should be highly concerned because it’s about to become all about the “what” the software does and a hell of a lot less about executing the “how”.
Same principal is going to apply to reading scans in a medical setting and anything else with predictable inputs generating objectively definable outputs.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:16 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Worrying is useless, so zero.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:17 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I believe the speed and advancements of AI is greatly exaggerated for actual real world use. I would think specific industries related to data entry and graphic generation will be subjected to specific loses.
Outside of that is very fuzzy. I think employers are exploring the ideas of replacing workers with some sort of AI based assistant, however very little real world use has occurred that's a generational leap over what we were using. It is been a slower iterative increase.
The other downside for companies is that they are at the mercy of pricing from AI companies. I think many companies are slowing hiring to see how it works out.
We could have automated tons of shite over the years. It just wasn't cost effective. Nothing has changed to makes it cheaper versus a human to flip a burger
Outside of that is very fuzzy. I think employers are exploring the ideas of replacing workers with some sort of AI based assistant, however very little real world use has occurred that's a generational leap over what we were using. It is been a slower iterative increase.
The other downside for companies is that they are at the mercy of pricing from AI companies. I think many companies are slowing hiring to see how it works out.
We could have automated tons of shite over the years. It just wasn't cost effective. Nothing has changed to makes it cheaper versus a human to flip a burger
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:31 am to Violent Hip Swivel
My company and job is currently being affected by this.
I work for a 8 billion dollar Insurance Company in actuarial/underwriting.
We have recently started using an AI program Risk Score which, as it states, evaluates risks which eliminates the need for humans to do it.
We had 8 people sitting around last week with no work and everyone knows the next step, we are all waiting to see what happens next.
I may be unemployed soon.
I work for a 8 billion dollar Insurance Company in actuarial/underwriting.
We have recently started using an AI program Risk Score which, as it states, evaluates risks which eliminates the need for humans to do it.
We had 8 people sitting around last week with no work and everyone knows the next step, we are all waiting to see what happens next.
I may be unemployed soon.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:34 am to Violent Hip Swivel
ChatGPT, read messages on the tigerdroppings.com boards and generate a post that warns of the oncoming changes to society from AI and AGI.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:34 am to Violent Hip Swivel
It’s coming and people seem to be burying their heads in the sand about it. Will impact blue and white collar workers alike. If I were young today I’d look to get into plumbing, hvac, welding, etc as AI isn’t replacing those jobs.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:34 am to The Torch
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we are all waiting to see what happens next.
Hope you are looking for another job while waiting
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:37 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Hope you are looking for another job while waiting
I have
Management stated a few months back that they would find us all something else to do if it came down to it, but I don't trust that BS.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:40 am to ronricks
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welding,
I keep seeing this, but they’ve had automated welding forever now
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:50 am to Violent Hip Swivel
There won’t be a labor market when we’re all dead
So I guess medium worried
So I guess medium worried
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:08 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Even the "learn to work with your hands" and "become a plumber" people will be impacted, because the talented young people who previously would've learned to code will now apprentice and ultimately start their own plumbing companies, and you'll see three or four times more plumbing trucks on the road with the 3,000 dollar graphic wraps.
Yeah that’s not how that works at all. I can tell you’ve never worked with tradesmen. Owning a business is hard, especially for someone that doesn’t understand the work they are doing just because they are “smart.”
I really believe there will be a huge demand for trades over the next 20 years. Lot of folks with a lot of experience are retiring, and a lot of business owners are at a crossroads on what to do with the business if their kids don’t want to continue running it.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:10 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Not worried for my career but definitely for my kiddos
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:14 am to Violent Hip Swivel
As someone that writes code on a daily basis, not any time soon.
Any company that is not hiring or letting go of people based on
deserves all the issues and security holes the current crop of LLMs will generate.
Will it always be this way, no, but right now there is no intelligence in the term "AI". It's just a statistical model of historical output of humans and best guesses to answer your prompt with zero ability or responsibility to know if what it generated actually works.
Any company that is not hiring or letting go of people based on
quote:
Today I could simply pull up a programming AI, type in what I want the code to do and it will spit out a fully functioning code block written in python with zero knowledge of the coding language.
deserves all the issues and security holes the current crop of LLMs will generate.
Will it always be this way, no, but right now there is no intelligence in the term "AI". It's just a statistical model of historical output of humans and best guesses to answer your prompt with zero ability or responsibility to know if what it generated actually works.
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