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re: Titanic..How Did She Really Sink?
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:21 pm to J Murdah
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:21 pm to J Murdah
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Why would our government care what happened to a ship over 100 years ago?
I dont know why they care, but they do.
For example: This is a clip from an article on cnbc.com
The government has 'weather weapons'
Alex Jones doesn't just believe that secretive forces are at work to control people's minds: He has also warned, for years, about government efforts to control the weather to wreak havoc on unsuspecting citizens.
In a 2013 broadcast, Jones warned that "of course there's weather weapon stuff going on," according to a transcript produced by Media Matters, a left-leaning watchdog organization. "We had floods in Texas like fifteen years ago, killed thirty-something people in one night. Turned out it was the Air Force."
Jones acknowledged the existence of "natural" tornadoes, but insisted that a May 2013 tornado that killed two dozen people and left more than 200 injured may have been orchestrated by the government, which he said "can create and steer groups of tornadoes."
In a broadcast this summer, Jones maintained that "there is weather-modification going on."
"They tell you about the stuff you know about, GPS and all of that. But when it comes to controlling the weather, they don't. But it's in all the trade publications, the university publications. It's all there, and that's my frustration," he said.
Now, I know Jones is talking about issues in 2013 and later BUT if our government can create machines in our lifetime that can control weather, its not a stretch to think they could create machines that control the ocean and help to sink a ship.
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:23 pm to SECdragonmaster
Dont tell me you believe that lunatic
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:23 pm to pioneerbasketball
You win at internet today
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:58 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Take an ice cube and throw it at your car, did it cut the steel?
This caused me to spit coffee on my computer screen
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:06 pm to terriblegreen
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This caused me to spit coffee on my computer screen
that's pretty solid reasoning right there, couple that with the fact that Ballard could find no evidence of the iceberg at the scene 73 years later and I think he's onto something
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:08 pm to RoleTideFan80
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Not really....I just think it's silly to think any of us actually know what happened. Therefore there isn't a wrong answer.
You guys act as though there were no survivors. There were plenty of people there to ask. I saw "Rose" answer this question in an interview...
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:14 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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. I saw "Rose" answer this question in an interview...
people are plenty stupid and gullible, people flock to the grave of Jack Dawson as if he had been a true life character, there was a Jack Dawson on the Titanic, he was a shoeshine boy, local economy in Halifax loves it though
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:24 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:25 pm to ExArmyVetIRISHFan
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Titanic..How Did She Really Sink?
Seawater entered the hull, displacing air and reducing the ship's ability to displace the ocean it sits on.
This eventually overpowered the ship's buoyancy
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:26 pm to ExArmyVetIRISHFan
Good thing the tragedy didn't occur today because every single passenger would have died from trying to film the sinking with their iPhones.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:14 pm to ExArmyVetIRISHFan
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How Did She Really Sink? by ExArmyVetIRISHFan
The obvious answer is - she took on water much faster than she could pump it out (ALL large ships take on water, baws, but the pumps keep the ship from sinking- important safety tip, a crippled ship, from a power/propulsion standpoint will eventually sink - no way around it).
Real answer - she struck an iceberg. Now, the modern design was supposed to make her unsinkable with the multiple watertight compartments. This would limit how much water it could take with a hull breach, precisely because of the iceberg threat.
For decades the most popular theory was that a huge gash was opened as the ship tried to avoid striking the iceberg, compromising too many compartments to remain afloat.
However, as technology has improved for a better examination of the wreck, the best analysis seems to conclude defects in material caused the hull panels to shatter, not bend and many more rivets loosened than were expected, allowing seawater to literally flood the ship, sinking the large vessel in just 3 hours.
The combination of the dramatic sinking speed and cold water contributed to the high casualty rate. For example, if the ship had taken 8 hours to sink (despite the scarcity of lifeboats), the body count would have been perhaps 60% of the final tally, depending on the actions of the crew with more time and the vessels that came into the area for the rescue. There were 500 empty lifeboat seats, so a properly run evacuation (with more time, say 6 to 8 hours) would have gone a long way in saving lives with the boats they had available.
If the wreck had happened in, say June, with warmer water, the death toll might have been in the 200 to 300 range not over 1500 as many would have been rescued from the water alive. As it is, only 13 survived their time in the water.
If it had been a less dramatic sinking (6 to 8 hours) AND in temperate weather (and, realistically, the water only needed to be 40 to 45 degrees for survivability to increase dramatically, the freezing water, saltwater chilled to 28 degrees, was generally fatal under most circumstances in 15 to 30 minutes), very few would have died, potentially none.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:05 pm to terriblegreen
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This caused me to spit coffee on my computer screen?
It's the truth!!!!
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:10 pm to Ace Midnight
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If it had been a less dramatic sinking (6 to 8 hours) AND in temperate weather (and, realistically, the water only needed to be 40 to 45 degrees for survivability to increase dramatically, the freezing water, saltwater chilled to 28 degrees, was generally fatal under most circumstances in 15 to 30 minutes), very few would have died, potentially none.
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:25 pm to ExArmyVetIRISHFan
Ship design and construction of the early 1900’s did not incorporate water right bulkheads at key points on the ship to ensure damaged stability. So when a compartment flooded it would spill over into the next compounding the situation. Current vessels over 90 meters in length require you prove damaged stability. Now this will not prevent all sinkings as catastrophic events can happen but it probably would have saved the titanic
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:28 pm to ExArmyVetIRISHFan
I'm confident that because the Titanic was "unsinkable" that they just said "frick an iceberg." And didn't actually try to dodge it.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:41 pm to LSU Fan SLU Grad
At least read the last part if you've never seen it before.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:49 pm to tigerbutt
If that's the case the Grey's (Aliens)sunk it..
Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:00 pm to pioneerbasketball
Man, throwvin something about the Jesuits and you hit for the conspiracy theory cycle with this nonsense.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 5:18 pm
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