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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:52 am to southpawcock
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:52 am to southpawcock
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Can you imagine what it smells like in there right now?
Salt water
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:55 am to Kansas City King
Everything you love about deep water diving is because of 50 year old white guys.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:55 am to Tuscaloosa
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Rich dudes need to stay out of that part of the ocean
Why?
It keeps eating them.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:57 am to FairhopeTider
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So how would all of these supposed failsafes fail if they aren’t reliant on the power supply? Why would communications and the resurfacing mechanism both fail?
There are stories coming out now from past trips. This isn’t the first time things went wrong. They’ve lost communication, gotten lost, and other mishaps.
Reading the stories of past passengers really doesn’t give me the feeling that this thing would be enjoyable at all.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:15 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:16 am to Kansas City King
Is that guy related to GWB?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:16 am to SlidellCajun
"The third day of diving provided an excellent opportunity to highlight Antipodes' capabilities to OceanGate’s newest board member and ocean advocate, David de Rothschild. Mr. de Rothschild’s excitement about his dive experience was clear. “We’re at a time when businesses need to think beyond the boundaries of traditional thinking and explore ways to not only grow financially but also manage and integrate a clear and responsible social and environmental vision,” he said. “In my opinion, OceanGate optimizes this ethos throughout. That’s why I am proud and excited to join their board on their epic adventure to become a world leader in ocean exploration and research.”
from 2014
from 2014
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:18 am to bigpapamac
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The answer to all of your questions is that it imploded. Everybody died instantly and the thing is basically the size of a tin can now.
There’s evidence they were alive after comms went down. So it seems at this point more likely they simply lost power and had poor back up communication ability.
My guess is they had 96 hours of oxygen if their power system worked but they had very little to no chance of surviving at 39* water temp down deep that long, and they basically died of hypothermia awhile ago.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 7:20 am
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:22 am to baldona
This has probably be asked. But would the Sub Captain keep descending after he knew they lost communication? Especially if he knew they had no form of navigation or backup communication.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:22 am to Kansas City King
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Kansas City king
That a $50 million sub….
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:23 am to SlidellCajun
They will do a movie within a year
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:26 am to dr
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oceangate has been making subs for a good while
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oceangate has been making subs for a good while
I am making a sub too similar to Titan. I already have the base built

Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:27 am to bigpapamac
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The answer to all of your questions is that it imploded.
Yeah. Outside of the noises, all evidence seems to point to that….which is a relief actually. The thought of them stuck in that tube on the ocean floor just waiting for death in the darkness sounds like absolute Hell.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:32 am to SlidellCajun
I wonder how the legal system works in desperate situations like this.
Let’s say there were two people on this sub, Jim and Joe. They get stuck on the bottom with limited oxygen and every hour counting as far as surviving long enough to be rescued. Jim gets it in his mind to end Joe and increase his chances of survival with more oxygen for himself. He does so and the oxygen conserved lasts just long enough for Jim to be rescued and survive the situation.
What legal consequences does Jim face?
There are five people on the OceanGate sub (assuming it’s intact and they are alive), so I don’t know that someone would even be able to resort to this if they wanted to. I know it doesn’t long for civilized people to turn barbaric, though, in a life or death situation.
Let’s say there were two people on this sub, Jim and Joe. They get stuck on the bottom with limited oxygen and every hour counting as far as surviving long enough to be rescued. Jim gets it in his mind to end Joe and increase his chances of survival with more oxygen for himself. He does so and the oxygen conserved lasts just long enough for Jim to be rescued and survive the situation.
What legal consequences does Jim face?
There are five people on the OceanGate sub (assuming it’s intact and they are alive), so I don’t know that someone would even be able to resort to this if they wanted to. I know it doesn’t long for civilized people to turn barbaric, though, in a life or death situation.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:35 am to gmrkr5
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That a $50 million sub….
Well, if your plan is to go 12,500 feet down to the Ocean floor where there's over 6,000 PSI of pressure, a mission more dangerous than taking a rocket ship into space itself, you probably shouldn't cut corners on stuff like that. if they couldn't' afford the necessary equipment to meet the safety standards, they shouldn't have been ferrying people down that far to begin with...
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 7:39 am
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:37 am to riverdiver
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The people in this contraption are bolted in from the outside.
This is mind boggling. Allow yourself to be bolted in a coffin while alive and dropped into the ocean depths.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:38 am to Kansas City King
Should have recruited the Cajun Navy to go find them.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 7:38 am to bigpapamac
2 former OceanGate employees voiced safety concerns years ago about the hull of the now-missing vessel
Lochridge brought up concerns that no non-destructive testing had been performed on the Titan’s hull to check for “delaminations, porosity and voids of sufficient adhesion of the glue being used due to the thickness of the hull,”
Another former OceanGate employee who worked briefly for the company during the same time period as Lochridge had similar concerns.
The former employee became concerned when the carbon fiber hull of the Titan arrived, he said, echoing Lochridge’s concerns about its thickness and adhesion in his conversation with CNN. The hull had only been built to five inches thick, he said, telling CNN company engineers told him they had expected it to be seven inches thick.
He said more concerns were raised by contractors and employees during his time at OceanGate, and Rush became defensive and shied away from answering questions during all-staff meetings. When the former employee raised concerns directly to Rush that OceanGate could potentially be violating a US law relating to Coast Guard inspections, the CEO outright dismissed them, the former employee said, and that’s when he resigned.
LINK
Lochridge brought up concerns that no non-destructive testing had been performed on the Titan’s hull to check for “delaminations, porosity and voids of sufficient adhesion of the glue being used due to the thickness of the hull,”
Another former OceanGate employee who worked briefly for the company during the same time period as Lochridge had similar concerns.
The former employee became concerned when the carbon fiber hull of the Titan arrived, he said, echoing Lochridge’s concerns about its thickness and adhesion in his conversation with CNN. The hull had only been built to five inches thick, he said, telling CNN company engineers told him they had expected it to be seven inches thick.
He said more concerns were raised by contractors and employees during his time at OceanGate, and Rush became defensive and shied away from answering questions during all-staff meetings. When the former employee raised concerns directly to Rush that OceanGate could potentially be violating a US law relating to Coast Guard inspections, the CEO outright dismissed them, the former employee said, and that’s when he resigned.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 7:46 am
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