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re: Tips for negotiating a car lease

Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26298 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:45 pm to
1. Read up on leasehackr
2. Make the deal with as little money down as putting money down on a lease is stupid
3. Don’t lease through us bank or ally especially with a hybrid or EV

I just got out of leasing…this is how they went

1. Leased a GMC Acadia…had a Yukon with a bunch of equity and took the equity to pay off some bills…didn’t make any money or owe any at the end

2. Turned in the Acadia leased a Tacoma. Made 2k at the end towards a lease on a tundra.

3. Crazy Covid times…they offered me 12k to give the tundra back

4. I leased a jeep wrangler 4xe….the residual is 40k and it’s worth less than 30k….i turn it in tomorrow and already bought a new f150 because I was over miles on the jeep
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
978 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:55 pm to
You’re basically just paying the depreciation on the new car and hoping to give it back with very low miles and close to new condition.

If she qualifies for the ev credit, Tesla has some good deals on leases.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12375 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:39 pm to
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Leasing a car is fricking retarded. Don't do it.


Right, instead, sign an 84-month loan, at the end of which you'll have an out-of-warranty high-mileage vehicle.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
45988 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:43 pm to
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Right, instead, sign an 84-month loan, at the end of which you'll have an out-of-warranty high-mileage vehicle.


people hear someone say something and just repeat it. leasing can work out well if you play the game right.

better yet using your example, finance for 84 months and then have the wife go trade in after 36 months and see who comes out ahead.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 4:44 pm
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2678 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:54 pm to
-Figure out what is leasing well, with lower money factor and incentives. Examples right now are Volvo, Infiniti and Jeep.
-Ask for a quote with zero down except paying first month lease payment. Easier to compare offers that way.
-Demand to see the money factor and depreciation. Research on Edmunds to make sure they are not inflated.
-Don't go into dealership without an offer in writing.
Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2491 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:56 pm to
Leasing is the most expensive way to get a car
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
1927 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:00 pm to
It's been 15 years since I leased a car but for some reason I believe insurance is different as well because you don't own it. Check on that before you sign a lease.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
45988 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

It's been 15 years since I leased a car but for some reason I believe insurance is different as well because you don't own it. Check on that before you sign a lease.


yes insurance will be higher limits but anyone that is riding around with minimum limits on insurance shouldnt be buying or leasing a new car period.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14215 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:21 pm to
Very few and you know that.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
45988 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:33 pm to
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Very few and you know that.


It’s no different than purchasing a car. If you go in uninformed you will get taken to the cleaners.
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
2032 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:49 pm to
Not that few.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39463 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:00 pm to
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Anyone have a lot of experience and know how to handle lease negotiations?


Leasing adds a layer of complexity to the deal that allows the salesman to hide or misrepresent the true purchase price.

Leasing has become an incredibly effective tool for dealers to sell their product at a significantly higher price and profit margin and is often “pushed” or “encouraged” through the sales process.

Leasing makes the car more affordable and therefore easier to sell. The buyer gets focused on being able to drive a nicer vehicle for a lower monthly note than what they most likely could not afford to buy.

It allows the customer to afford a more expensive car, and the more expensive the car, the larger the profit.

Leasing allows the dealer to legally hide the true cost/price of the vehicle and charge you a higher price than you would normally agree to.

A leasing customer is more likely to return to the same dealership to get their next vehicle and next vehicle and next vehicle. Even though your original sales person will be long gone, the dealership is able to maintain customer retention and that’s where it pays off in the long run.

Personally, I am not a fan of leasing. You will owe something. You will own nothing. In other words, your girlfriend will have zero "equity" when her lease it up. She will be caught in an endless cycle, unless she decides to buy used or saves up enough cash for a significant down payment.

Leasing is a convenience that you’ll pay for in the end.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
10638 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:24 pm to
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also most hybrid or electric cars are good lease candidates right now because they are moving slow on the lots and there will be a 7500$ price reduction because of the tax rebate. add in incentives from manufacturer and the dealers price reduction and you can easily get to 10-20k off of msrp.


This. Lease a PHEV, get the $7,500 off plus dealers price reduction and incentives, wait 3 months and they outright finance the car through a credit union.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48734 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:54 pm to
My tip: buy a 3 year old, low mileage car coming off lease is the best advice I can give you about leased cars
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60620 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:38 pm to
Lease is great for the car dealership.
It's has very few advantages for most people.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2102 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:04 pm to
Leasehakr.com Leasing is the shite, most don’t even know, even the dealers. I do one pay leases, and they think I’m Einstein or something, legit ask me to come work for them. You can really get a great deal and they hate that. So it takes HOURS to find a willing participant. Last 5 vehicles have been 50k and currently at $183 a month, most are $200-250. If I go over my Nissan miles it’s only 10 cents a mile. Do the math on that, It’s cheep as hell. You are going to pay way more than 1k for a car with 25k miles vs 35k.

I can lease a car for 18 years before it equals the price of a new car. It’s a huge pia to get great deals though.


Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
45988 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:09 pm to
If you are going to change cars every 2-3 years, take care of your vehicles, want to always be under warranty, and don’t drive more than your lease mileage limit then leases make sense. If you make a good deal on a lease then you will always come out ahead vs financing a car and trading in in 2-3 years. And that’s not even considering if you get in a wreck and what that will do to the trade in value of your vehicle.


That’s the scenario that leases work for. You can’t compare leasing to someone that keeps a car for 8 years or some shite.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31108 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:12 pm to
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3 year lease was paid off, then I financed to own it for the same monthly note on a 6 year loan


NM, I understand now.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 11:20 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53172 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:23 am to
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My tip: buy a 3 year old, low mileage car coming off lease is the best advice I can give you about leased cars


The used market is arse
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3423 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:38 am to
If you are gonna lease a car, lease a Toyota. They are one of the few that end end with a lower residual value than than the market value. At the end of the lease, buy the car outright and then trade it in for the next. Do not just turn it in to lease another car.
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