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re: Tipping point for me: These tests are fricked

Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:34 am to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:34 am to
I mean when you are counting people who you assume had it, your numbers will be larger
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23317 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:44 am to
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So you don't question the accuracy of these tests at all?



Why should you? This is not an unexpected outcome when both the virus test AND the antibody test have shown that most people with the disease have absolutely no symptoms. Orange County, Santa Clara, the aircraft carrier, the Diamond Princess, Vo, Italy, Boston homeless shelter, obstetrics testing in New York, etc., and now Wisconsin. The only debate among most scientists is whether it's closer to 50% or 90+%.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:59 am to
That precisely shows why all this is horse shot and you have idiots rush on here to say the opposite.

Oh my god they have s virus so dreadful they do not know they have it! Just like most other people who have had it! Let’s cower and destroy more jobs!

At this point getting the virus is like getting cooties
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:10 am to
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I mean when you are counting people who you assume had it, your numbers will be larger
How many people over the course of your entire life do you know who came down with a fever and a cough and then died within weeks? In NYC, the average person knows about 2 people who that happened to in just the last month.

The NYC numbers, *before* they added in the probable cases, already showed that 0.1% of the entire population of the city had died of *confirmed* cases. You would have to assume that every single person in NYC has already been infected, and that not a single one of the probable cases was a true case, and that their death count stops about 5 days ago, in order for this to be even equal to the flu's mortality rate of 0.1%.

In reality, where most of us live, none of those assumptions are even remotely true. So that 0.1% is the absolute, rock-bottom fatality rate that covid can possibly be, and it is certain to be inaccurate. All we know is it absolutely cannot be lower than that.

To say "not even as bad as the flu" is to simply ignore plain indisputable facts.
Posted by Russ337
NM
Member since Dec 2013
1473 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:27 am to
People won’t care on here buddy.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:32 am to
So what is your solution in regards to unemployment and the economy? Because we can’t take much more of a lockdown. With the virus or not. We are bottomed out right now.
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:47 am to
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So what is your solution in regards to unemployment and the economy?

He doesn’t have one.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
13250 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:58 am to
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Trump is the biggest frickup in American History


FIFY

The worst type of leader to have in a crisis: Ignorant, self serving and ineffective. He is a prime example of Dunning Kruger. His followers, morons like you, ignore the science and experts. It’s not just Fauci, it’s a consensus among leading infectious disease experts, virologists, epidemiologists in the world.
Opening things up before testing, track and tracing are adequate will lead to catastrophic health and economic damage.
You should get your heads out of Trump and the right wing propaganda machine’s arse.

Trump’s hunch was predictably stupid and wrong.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30488 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:04 am to
If this is such a big deal, then I cant wait to hear what you plan to do to retaliate against China for doing this
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:18 am to
Oh, you mean Pete Ricketts in Nebraska - the guy who buried his head in the sand screaming all is well for the last two months and now he has an outbreak brewing because the JBS meat plant in Grand Island didn't do jack shite for prevention because the state health department didn't want to interrupt the cattle processing? That guy? Dude is a complete fricking corporate toolbag.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69778 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:41 am to
The tests show positive for ANY strain of coronavirus, including the common cold.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:45 am to
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can't let it go.


There will be these people years from now.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:55 am to
Some of you snowflakes are afraid of your own shadow's now.

Stop being afraid of life, go to work and live your life. There are far worse shite out there than Covid-19 that will take your life. If covid took you out then you were on the way out anyways. Acted just as the flu would if you had something wrong with you.

Stop being pussies and being afraid to live life. Stop watching CNN and MSNBC, go outside and live.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:57 am to
Ok, I’ll ask you too. What is your plan in regards to unemployment and the economy? It’s easy to sit back and say “let’s stay safe and stay locked in.”

The problem with that is that it’s not feasible, much less possible for much longer. At some point very soon, we’re all gonna have to go back to normal and take our licks. Money is not a never ending resource. We have to produce (all of us, not just essentials).

I suspect that this is nut cutting time (so to speak) for the unhealthy in this country to either be responsible and stay socially distanced while resuming normal activity or pay the consequence and get sick and possibly die. And for those who are obese, have bad genes with poor immunity, the elderly - those all need to especially stay socially distanced. I don’t know any other way to put it. We have been on training wheels for the last month. But we are bottomed the frick out with unemployment and now the government is paying/has paid us all a little. Time to go back to work. Your month long holiday -errrr- working from home has come to an end.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 6:00 am
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
4025 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:21 am to
Tell me who you voted for in the last 10 elections (Fed, state or local I don't care) and we will be able to determine just how smart your are.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73575 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:43 am to
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Opening things up before testing, track and tracing are adequate will lead to catastrophic health and economic damage. 
You should get your heads out of Trump and the right wing propaganda machine’s arse. 


We get it, Orange Man Bad.

Meanwhile, your statement about economic damage is merely your feelings while the facts are that keeping everything closed down isnt a feasible option anymore.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54241 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:45 am to
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Fauci is a fricking moron.
He's been wrong all along.


He's doing what his International High Finance/Global deep state handlers tell him to do, pretty simple
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:51 am to
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It is several times worse than the flu. The NYC numbers make this fact absolutely undeniable to any reasonable person.

Well, of course it is when you attribute every death to COVID 19.

If we say the cause of every death is from salmonella, we could call it a pandemic too.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88350 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:58 am to
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Well, of course it is when you attribute every death to COVID 19.

If we say the cause of every death is from salmonella, we could call it a pandemic too.
bruh

These are total monthly deaths in Hew York. Regardless of cause. Over the years.



That's not to say, these states aren't loose in what they count as a COVID death, but come on.

Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29915 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:59 am to
The numbers from NYC DO NOT in any way, shape or form correlate to the rest of the country. NYC is a truly unique area.

It is one of the most densely populated areas in the country. People use mass transit multiple times a day. They live/work in skyscrapers, which means they are crammed in elevators like sardines several times each day as well.

The rest of the country doesn't live like that, and that is precisely why if you subtract the numbers from NYC and the surrounding areas (NJ, CT, etc.) it really isn't that big of a deal except in a few other areas with unique circumstances. LA had Mardi Gras, and that was a huge contributor to the problem there.

I am sick of being told how horrible it is where I live when the actual numbers DO NOT support the hysteria. Because of NYC, though, I can't work, friends treat me like I have the plague if I suggest we get together, and just going to the store for bread and milk is a gigantic ordeal.

It's time to end this for the areas that are not in bad shape.
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