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Thoughts on Performance Improvement Plans?
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:35 pm
Typically, do you see this only go to what is considered “low performers” or is it often given to other employees as well just to save arse when they let go of said employee?
I know every company uses this differently but in my experience they typically end up being dished out to the low performers. I haven’t come across someone who was surprised they were put on one.
I know every company uses this differently but in my experience they typically end up being dished out to the low performers. I haven’t come across someone who was surprised they were put on one.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:37 pm to bctiger7
I believe this is step one for HR to move toward the impending termination.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:38 pm to bctiger7
quote:AKA, justification for termination. It's a red flag telling you to update your resume and find a new spot before HR has to come down.
Performance Improvement Plans
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:39 pm to bctiger7
update your resumé and start browsing Indeed, playa...
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:40 pm to bctiger7
quote:
I know every company uses this differently
There's some company culture that pushes it but i find it to be more manager specific.
Personal experience, I got one from my boss because he thought i was slacking off when in reality i was heads down with the finance team pushing towards our IPO that required thee deals to close simultaneously. Him and HR realized they fricked up pretty quick when i bailed on the finance work since only a specific part of it was technically my job. After a couple thrown chairs by the CFO they got their shite together, pulled the PIP and i ended up with a nice IPO bonus. Then i left on the 1 year vest date and now they're one of my larger clients.
His exact words when i gave my notice were, "I did that because i thought your head was in your arse, but afterward realized it was mine."
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:42 pm to bctiger7
I've always heard it's just a formality before you're fired.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:42 pm to bctiger7
I’ve been in one a few times. All but once were a misunderstanding. I don’t think they helped me much.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:43 pm to bctiger7
I've had a few that succeeded in improving the employee and they stayed on. It's definitely a documentation for potential termination deal, but good organizations don't consider it a done deal automatically.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:44 pm to bctiger7
Every single employee we put on one gets terminated after 30 days on said ‘plan’. Its the kiss of death and basically a courtesy to start looking for and find another job before you get fired.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:44 pm to bctiger7
quote:
Thoughts on Performance Improvement Plans?
They typically never work, but give legal and HR cover before actually terminating someone.
Three step process... warning letter, warning letter, warning letter with PIP, termination.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:45 pm to bctiger7
CYA for the company when they fire them a few weeks later.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:46 pm to bctiger7
I didn't know that PIPs were used on the personal level. I've used them for decreasing ER TATs for labwork before, where a team from ER and one from the lab got together and drastically decreased ER turn-around-times. And several other hospital projects. Usually work very well.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:51 pm to bctiger7
What does a "final warning" mean?
Because I've gotten those multiple times
With the same company
Because I've gotten those multiple times
With the same company
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:51 pm to bctiger7
I fricked up and almost volunteered myself for one at my last job. I realize now that it was an incredibly toxic work environment and not a reflection of my abilities. Fortunately found a good job just before I was put on one.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:52 pm to bctiger7
FWIW, I’ve noticed my company issues them with a deadline. For example I saw one dude get one and they called it a 4 month PIP. He survived. At other places though, I’ve seen it more so as a final warning to get your shite packed and a courtesy to find another job before you get fired.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:55 pm to bctiger7
If there is a very well crafted PIP program, then IMHO it should help the organization.
The org must have the proper methods to do business and it must have a training program for employees to be able to master those methods. The PIP should be a training/development program whose objective it is to maximize the employees potential. If the employee is a hot young female, then, none of the preceding matters at all.
The org must have the proper methods to do business and it must have a training program for employees to be able to master those methods. The PIP should be a training/development program whose objective it is to maximize the employees potential. If the employee is a hot young female, then, none of the preceding matters at all.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:56 pm to GRTiger
I've heard if a company is worth a shite normally it's supposed to be a "wake up" call and hopefully the employee fixes his/her shite or Indeed here they come. (or go)
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:58 pm to bctiger7
Update your resume, should be the first step.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:00 pm to Chingon Ag
quote:
I believe this is step one for HR to move toward the impending termination.
In State work, it’s one of the last steps before termination.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:01 pm to bctiger7
When i issue PIPs its usually someone i actually want to salvage and want them to do a better job. It does give me the necessary paper trail with HR if that doesnt work out though.
if its someone i didnt care about salvaging they would just have written warnings signed and documented with consultation and i would move for termination after certain number.
if its someone i didnt care about salvaging they would just have written warnings signed and documented with consultation and i would move for termination after certain number.
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