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re: This may be the most Louisiana thing I've ever seen

Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44785 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:30 pm to
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There is no law requiring you to identify yourself, thus he was illegally arrested.


You are almost correct. If someone says, “Halt, who goes there?” You are required to answer. All other instances it’s up to your discretion.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30431 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:33 pm to
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Makes for better youtube content to manipulate and draw in a bunch of gullible saps.


It also helps to realize he has had multiple encounters with the police that he has filmed all over the country. This is not the only one in a library. He purposely brings in lots of "equipment" and makes himself a nuisance trying to push right up to the line without going over.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:36 pm to

There are a lot of audit channels as you know. Some good, some awful. I've learned a ton from them over the years.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79906 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:37 pm to
If I saw a guy with all that crap wandering about a library filming, I'd be keeping an eye on him myself.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44205 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:37 pm to
That is nice.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12295 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:37 pm to
The cop wearing the gang symbol in the beginning of the video actually shocks me. I can't believe they let cops wear gang symbols that desecrate the American flag (Harris 26 seconds in, not even sure if he is involved with the rest of the video)

I'll watch the the rest of the video later but based on his actions cops even showing up is a disgrace to our country. Hell, I have walked through unfamiliar libraries wearing a back pack looking for a quiet place with wifi and encountered locked doors, unfamiliar stairwells and unfamiliar layouts. Mostly because of covid and the need to be near campus but so much shite was closed that we didn't have places to do work without finding a place. Librarian needs to be fired and I swear these people need charges brought against them for calling the government to threaten people with violence in public places.

Please, drop all your positive encounters with the police. I have yet to encounter a positive encounter with a cop in nearly 40 years. Some have been nice, some have been complete assholes, some blatantly violated the law as others just stood by but I have NEVER had a positive outcome with a police encounter. I know, nobody is going to actually post the positive outcomes of their police encounters and they are just going to DV, I am going to enjoy the Pels getting this one back from the Suns.
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
546 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:38 pm to
Yes, he does do things to provoke. The question is, "is it illegal." The Supreme Court says it isn't. Suspicion is not a crime. "Louisiana Justice" tends to be criminal
more often then not.

edit: Your feelings do not trump my rights!!!
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46793 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:42 pm to
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He purposely brings in lots of "equipment" and makes himself a nuisance


Yeah, a guy walking around in a public place, filming his journey, breaking zero laws. He is not obligated to tell Karen why he is walking round.

There is a better known guy on Youtube doing this. While they are clearly baiting stupid cops that do not know the law, they get paid fat cash. This guy walked around the BR courthouse. Multiple cops lined up to violate his rights, and break laws by bullying him. I don't know if that suit is settled yet.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74801 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:43 pm to
Christopher Wren Architect
St Paul’s Cathedral, London
1675-1710
About no expense was spared
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:45 pm to
Damn, this place may be worse than fricking Nextdoor.

Who knew?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60561 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:45 pm to
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Wrong. The Supreme Court has already ruled that if you are in a public place, you have ZERO expectation of privacy.

I hate to argue - but a library is considered a limited public forum. A person is allowed to record, but it depends on what they are recording. Some library systems prohibit the recording of other library users and some require permission beforehand.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44205 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:47 pm to
Been there, done that.

It is nice though.

Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Stop and identify laws don't require you to carry ID (unless you are driving or flying on a commercial plane) but if you meet the legal requirements you have to provide your name, address, and explanation of the actions you are being questioned about.


IF you are suspected of a crime.

That's universal.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30431 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:51 pm to
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Yes, he does do things to provoke. The question is, "is it illegal." The Supreme Court says it isn't. Suspicion is not a crime. "Louisiana Justice" tends to be more often then not.


The issue here is was the suspicion reasonable that he had committed a crime, was in the course of committing a crime, or was about to commit a crime is not a question of law but a question of fact. That means it is to be decided by the trier of fact which in this case was the judge.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18051 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:53 pm to
The dude was acting like a weirdo. How do the cops know he doesn’t have a bomb or something.

Just tell them your name and that you’re a normal white guy and they will just leave you alone. It’s a tried and true scenario.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79906 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:56 pm to
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The dude was acting like a weirdo
If the dude was Muslim you know these supporters of the instigator would take the opposite side.
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:59 pm to
What part of telling the cops his name quells any unfounded suspicion the guy might have a bomb?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:59 pm to
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The dude was acting like a weirdo. How do the cops know he doesn’t have a bomb or something.


Right?!
Tartineisha told them he was casing the place and checking locked doors. That library is lucky it didn't get the full no knock treatment
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46793 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:00 pm to
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A person is allowed to record, but it depends on what they are recording. Some library systems prohibit the recording of other library users and some require permission beforehand.


So, each individual library's little rules trump the Supreme court's decision? Wait, no they don't. I can film in public areas in public buildings, period. I cannot film in the library at your children's school, without permission beforehand. A public library, no permission is needed.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60561 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:02 pm to
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What part of telling the cops his name quells any unfounded suspicion the guy might have a bomb?

Cooperation goes a long way

I understand the man has nothing to hide, and I’ve dealt with way worse at the library I worked with - but I don’t think the librarian was unreasonable if she was telling the truth about the doors
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