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re: This may be the most Louisiana thing I've ever seen

Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:08 pm to
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I don’t think the librarian was unreasonable if she was telling the truth about the doors


Well she wasn't.

And even if she was, is it really so suspicious for a guy to venture briefly to an unmarked door?
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
5611 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:19 pm to
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There is no law requiring you to identify yourself, thus he was illegally arrested.


Seems like the police were investigating a complaint on public property. I’m not an attorney, nor a police officer. I would think they would want the subject of the complaint identified, and to complete their investigation.
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:23 pm to
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I would think they would want the subject of the complaint identified, and to complete their investigation.


Or, how about this novel concept: they see that the guy isn't commiting and hasn't committed any crime, apologize for the disruption, and go about their day?
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
546 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:23 pm to
Except that in appeals, many judges have been slapped down due to established "law".
That is a fact!
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46799 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:24 pm to
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Or, how about this novel concept: they see that the guy isn't commiting and hasn't committed any crime, apologize for the disruption, and go about their day?



Once these guys sue the different places shown on Youtube, they train their people, and follow up visits are handled totally differently.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16133 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:34 pm to
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Cooperation goes a long way

So a law-abiding citizen surrenders his Constitutional rights and identifies himself when he isn’t required.

That night, the librarian or one of the cops who didn’t like the pushback go throw some rocks through the library windows. Guess who has a warrant issued or at least a Be On The Lookout for issued on them? The guy better not say a word when the cops find him and he’ll end up spending $1000s on a lawyer because he decided to cooperate.

You can participate in an investigation but you cannot be forced to cooperate.
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
546 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:42 pm to
Most bootlickers couldn't explain the 1st amendment beyond the freedom of press. There is no way you can expect them to understand illegal search and seizure. Most have no clue what the 4th amendment is. It's just some old literature is all. Fluid even.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18054 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:46 pm to
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So a law-abiding citizen surrenders his Constitutional rights and identifies himself when he isn’t required.


Let’s put the shoe on the other foot…a stranger is walking on the sidewalk looking in your daughter’s window. Never gets off the sidewalk…you call the police and he refuses to identify himself. You cool with that?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46799 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:47 pm to
This was the second day in BR, before lawsuits. He was pushed downstairs by a constable, and he wants the constable arrested. he also asks for some more training for the deputy that escalated everything, instead of de-escalating. Everybody is nice to him, but nobody is going to arrest a constable. They gave him the "We are investigating, in IA dance. Even the Mayor's office said they were all in meetings. The DA's office had nobody there. The one guy on duty was called to the jail.

Youtube

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122120 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:00 pm to
I just watched a few minutes of the video and I am only speaking on what I saw. I can understand why he would look suspicious.

Most of the people who go in there they are probably familiar with. And the ones they are not familiar with probably go in and go do whatever they are there to do. A dude in a green army jacket just walking around and looking like he is looking for something is suspicious. I'll watch the rest tomorrow to see what the police do.
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
546 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:04 pm to
Does my daughter have blinds on her window?

As long as it can't be defined as voyeurism, or some other law is broken. I have to assume what he is doing is legal. No identification needed. I don't just defend the rights I believe are correct, I defend them all. Whether I like them or not.

Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11932 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:05 pm to
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You probably meant “nice alter”?


bad kelsey grammer
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6377 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Can you confirm if this is a Soros appointed judge?


The boogie man is appointing judges now too?
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8426 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:19 pm to
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Yeah, who takes their backpack to a library and then walks around the library? Obviously casing the place to come back and steal all the valuable books the Natchitoches library houses.


His stated reason was to “look for the best signal to upload video” is complete BS.

This dude is a troll, no more no less, looking for a layout. F him.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2893 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:43 pm to
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Or, how about this novel concept: they see that the guy isn't commiting and hasn't committed any crime, apologize for the disruption, and go about their day?


This is the way I see it as well. However, those simpleton police officers weren't going to take a L in front of the "distressed librarian".

Sure, the guy was a douche but the police officers' ignorance was more offensive.

The judge and DA are just flat out corrupt. They should have admonished and educated the police officers instead of letting this ridiculousness ultimately become a losing lawsuit for their parish...which will happen.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:49 pm to
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Or, how about this novel concept: they see that the guy isn't commiting and hasn't committed any crime, apologize for the disruption, and go about their day?



Na F that. comply or die. voluntary cooperation is mandatory. dissent should be smothered.
you have no rights, do as you are told without question.
its shameful people resort to exercising their rights.


slapping public officials with fat lawsuits is an effective way to hold public officials accountable for their ignorance of the law thus preventing further abuses in the future. we need more people like this guy to bring more consequences for violations of rights. its a sin that we allowed it to get this far to begin with.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60561 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:22 pm to
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A public library, no permission is needed.

In most libraries no permission is needed, but not all. Sorry. Off hand I know the Boston Public library does not allow it Boston and you need to have permission in St. Paul, MN St. Paul

The Natchitoches Library policy states people can record as long as it doesn’t invade anyone’s privacy or disturb people’s right to enjoy the library.
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:29 pm to
That link to Boston literally says feel free to enjoy taking photos of the building.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60561 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:30 pm to
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That link to Boston literally says feel free to enjoy taking photos of the building.

Yes, but I was referring to #3.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30433 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:50 am to
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Except that in appeals, many judges have been slapped down due to established "law".
That is a fact!


The appellate court's primary function is to determine if the law was interpreted/applied correctly and only deal with the facts based on the clearly erroneous standard. Overturning the fact-finding of a judge is rare primarily because part of fact-finding adjudication comes from things like how credible witnesses appear during testimony. Trial de novo is pretty rare. I don't practice in LA but some jurisdictions do have mechanisms for getting a trial de novo from a bench trial by a magistrate or municipal judge.
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