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re: There should be a law making it legal to kill a looter or property destroyer..
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:26 pm to sanora
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:26 pm to sanora
How about you and the ones you would like to protect just, you know, not break other peoples windows and steal their shite. Get a job and mind your own fricking business and you get to keep breathing.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:35 pm to nateslu1
Yep, I’ll 1000% be protecting my family with force. No question.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:40 pm to nateslu1
Sounds good in theory. Until you have a Walmart manager mowing down 50+ people who all rushed the store.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:45 pm to sanora
quote:
killing people over things is retarded dude. taking a life because someone broke your window is murder.
So someone is supposed to just watch their entire life savings disappear because it offends your sensibilities?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:46 am to sanora
There is. I believe that during a state of emergency you can shoot looters. And if you are in your store you may shoot as they force their way in.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:49 am to nateslu1
Oh yeah, anyone who thinks that we should FOR ONE SECOND tolerate these organized attacks on cities of our nation, why don't you go try out maybe just a minute or two of this looting and destroying of property in your favorite Muslim ("the religion of peace") country or village, then go tell CNN News how that went for you...
...and if they can even find your head, they'll need more than just a microphone to get your story...
No, they wouldn't tolerate it and they mock our leaders' lack of courage to stand up to this with swift retribution. If any group is brazen enough organize attacks against the businesses and welfare of private citizens of The United States of America in a fashion that reduces our cities to burning rubble... ..I think it's high time they learn the freedom to peacefully protest here is a right that was paid for with blood and lives of those who died protecting it... ..and anyone who thinks they are big and bad enough to wage these attacks better be big and bad enough to face the hell-fire and other lines of defense we've built to keep this country safe and free from these types of attacks.
Simply put, these ignorant, sniveling, cowards think they want to full on attack and burn our nation's cities? OK... let's go ahead, clear the women, children, and innocent civilians out, then let them face our nations's defense....full on!
...and if they can even find your head, they'll need more than just a microphone to get your story...
No, they wouldn't tolerate it and they mock our leaders' lack of courage to stand up to this with swift retribution. If any group is brazen enough organize attacks against the businesses and welfare of private citizens of The United States of America in a fashion that reduces our cities to burning rubble... ..I think it's high time they learn the freedom to peacefully protest here is a right that was paid for with blood and lives of those who died protecting it... ..and anyone who thinks they are big and bad enough to wage these attacks better be big and bad enough to face the hell-fire and other lines of defense we've built to keep this country safe and free from these types of attacks.
Simply put, these ignorant, sniveling, cowards think they want to full on attack and burn our nation's cities? OK... let's go ahead, clear the women, children, and innocent civilians out, then let them face our nations's defense....full on!
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:06 am to MiDixon Yermouth
Nothing would happen. Looters know where the threats lie. That is why they test the police and responses one bite at a time. They aren't charging armed or dangerous places. Every place and thing they burned, they were allowed and probably tipped off.
When I was in Orange, TX and it flooded, certain companies brought in private security (Blackwater types). They were there within 10 hours of the storm. Full tactical gear with semi auto rifles. People didn't try looting anywhere near them. Cause those guys meant business and didn't give a rip..
When I was in Orange, TX and it flooded, certain companies brought in private security (Blackwater types). They were there within 10 hours of the storm. Full tactical gear with semi auto rifles. People didn't try looting anywhere near them. Cause those guys meant business and didn't give a rip..
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:36 am to nateslu1
Condensed version post:
1) Could this work?
2) Modify existing laws on how looters, vandals and agitators are defined and therefor charged/prosecuted
3) "Tagging" offenders en masse from a distance using a substance evolved from existing dye-pack technology
4) Multiple passive identification methods so perps can be positively identified at some point or place besides "in the moment"
5) Punishment for guilty individuals includes sterilization. Individual retains right to foster/adopt later in life if eligibility requirements are met.
Long version post (non-rambling bits in Bold):
I was thinking about how could law enforcement handle the masses of unruly animals looting, destroying property and basically being the most degenerate kind of shitbirds imaginable.... in a way that doesn't endanger the officers, soldiers, or whatever personnel is tasked... and would in no way potentially be taken as an excuse to escalate in the moment or exemplified to spark continued "outrage"... and I think I've got an idea that wouldn't take much development to put into play.
First of all - Any acts of violence, looting, destruction of property that occur under the guise of protest OUTSIDE OF AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR DEMONSTRATION or in no relation to a protest ANYWHERE AFTER A MANDATORY CURFEW OR DISPERSAL ORDER IS PUT INTO EFFECT where a group of ___ or more individuals are involved (even if the act is not pre-meditated and regardless of if those involved are known to each other or not) - It should be considered organized crime. All those in the area - level of involvement makes no difference - They are conspirators and should be charged as such as they are either contributing actively in the incident or impeding LE's ability to intercede by providing "crowd anonymity" as cover. IDK how to word it exactly.
So let's say all the animal shite is happening - Hit the lot of 'em with dye en masse... perhaps via canisters like smoke bombs or tear gas.. And the dye.... not the bright sharpie staining kind - Don't want to paint the businesses being protected. Some kind of UV sensitive stuff that reacts with skin and hair, spreads easily when in contact with sweat... has some "inky moisture" so it penetrates clothing easily. And here's the part that likely needs development - It contains a reagent or chemical marker of some sort that is non-toxic - but remains detectable on skin, in hair/saliva... even in blood/urine for at least a few days to a week minimum. The reagent/marker would have to be something specific, possibly interchangeable, and not easy to duplicate quickly (in order to prevent groups from self-tagging in advance). The presence of multiple markers/reagents would be a easy way to get oneself both spotted and charged with conspiracy.
Best way to deploy would be by helicopter... but any [armored?] vehicle would suffice... or "nested" officers already in place at intervals. Dust whoever is in the vicinity of a crime in progress. It should all be on camera to help corroborate. Body/dash/helicopter cam.... give each unit a cameraman and whatever lighting or lens illuminates the dye. For the next few days - just send out marked or unmarked units, helicopters or whatever with "hollywood big" lights to see who fluoresces. Install that lighting at public transportation hubs like bus/train stations, airports... Government buildings/hospitals... wherever. The trick would be how to eliminate transfer. It would have to react a specific way on primary contact. If you are caught wearing "tagged" clothing but show no signs of it on your skin - You are given the opportunity to provide a sample of hair, saliva, whatever for reagent testing. If you didn't do it - you're on your way in 15 minutes....AND - In case you were unaware of what a shite human being the boyfriend/girlfriend/friend/co-worker/family member or whoever that tagged article of clothing came from...
Get some big-arse camps ready in Alaska, New Mexico.... somewhere uncomfortable for those not acclimatized.... where you can have time to consider your ways.... and get sterilized... because the odds of these types becoming good parents are slim. If a former camper can turn their life around to the point they are approved to foster or adopt a child - Good on them. They've earned the right to have a legacy.
1) Could this work?
2) Modify existing laws on how looters, vandals and agitators are defined and therefor charged/prosecuted
3) "Tagging" offenders en masse from a distance using a substance evolved from existing dye-pack technology
4) Multiple passive identification methods so perps can be positively identified at some point or place besides "in the moment"
5) Punishment for guilty individuals includes sterilization. Individual retains right to foster/adopt later in life if eligibility requirements are met.
Long version post (non-rambling bits in Bold):
I was thinking about how could law enforcement handle the masses of unruly animals looting, destroying property and basically being the most degenerate kind of shitbirds imaginable.... in a way that doesn't endanger the officers, soldiers, or whatever personnel is tasked... and would in no way potentially be taken as an excuse to escalate in the moment or exemplified to spark continued "outrage"... and I think I've got an idea that wouldn't take much development to put into play.
First of all - Any acts of violence, looting, destruction of property that occur under the guise of protest OUTSIDE OF AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR DEMONSTRATION or in no relation to a protest ANYWHERE AFTER A MANDATORY CURFEW OR DISPERSAL ORDER IS PUT INTO EFFECT where a group of ___ or more individuals are involved (even if the act is not pre-meditated and regardless of if those involved are known to each other or not) - It should be considered organized crime. All those in the area - level of involvement makes no difference - They are conspirators and should be charged as such as they are either contributing actively in the incident or impeding LE's ability to intercede by providing "crowd anonymity" as cover. IDK how to word it exactly.
So let's say all the animal shite is happening - Hit the lot of 'em with dye en masse... perhaps via canisters like smoke bombs or tear gas.. And the dye.... not the bright sharpie staining kind - Don't want to paint the businesses being protected. Some kind of UV sensitive stuff that reacts with skin and hair, spreads easily when in contact with sweat... has some "inky moisture" so it penetrates clothing easily. And here's the part that likely needs development - It contains a reagent or chemical marker of some sort that is non-toxic - but remains detectable on skin, in hair/saliva... even in blood/urine for at least a few days to a week minimum. The reagent/marker would have to be something specific, possibly interchangeable, and not easy to duplicate quickly (in order to prevent groups from self-tagging in advance). The presence of multiple markers/reagents would be a easy way to get oneself both spotted and charged with conspiracy.
Best way to deploy would be by helicopter... but any [armored?] vehicle would suffice... or "nested" officers already in place at intervals. Dust whoever is in the vicinity of a crime in progress. It should all be on camera to help corroborate. Body/dash/helicopter cam.... give each unit a cameraman and whatever lighting or lens illuminates the dye. For the next few days - just send out marked or unmarked units, helicopters or whatever with "hollywood big" lights to see who fluoresces. Install that lighting at public transportation hubs like bus/train stations, airports... Government buildings/hospitals... wherever. The trick would be how to eliminate transfer. It would have to react a specific way on primary contact. If you are caught wearing "tagged" clothing but show no signs of it on your skin - You are given the opportunity to provide a sample of hair, saliva, whatever for reagent testing. If you didn't do it - you're on your way in 15 minutes....AND - In case you were unaware of what a shite human being the boyfriend/girlfriend/friend/co-worker/family member or whoever that tagged article of clothing came from...
Get some big-arse camps ready in Alaska, New Mexico.... somewhere uncomfortable for those not acclimatized.... where you can have time to consider your ways.... and get sterilized... because the odds of these types becoming good parents are slim. If a former camper can turn their life around to the point they are approved to foster or adopt a child - Good on them. They've earned the right to have a legacy.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:37 am to sanora
quote:
killing people over things is retarded dude. taking a life because someone broke your window is murder.
If the world is going to turn animalistic, expect people to react like animals to protect what is theirs.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:50 am to QJenk
quote:
Sounds good in theory. Until you have a Walmart manager mowing down 50+ people who all rushed the store.
Hmm. That just might be a good message to send.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:53 am to sanora
quote:
taking a life because someone broke your window is murder.
Actually it’s not. The post on page 1 detailed in depth what it is skyscreamer
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:54 am to Lester Earl
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Everyone would be really confused when they learn the dead people end up being White kids
The Philly streams all day yesterday disagree
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:54 am to Ed Osteen
quote:
all day yesterday
Your life sounds thrilling if this is how you spent your day.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:12 pm to yurintroubl
Damn, that's a really good idea!
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:19 pm to nateslu1
What gives ANY human the right they think they can tamper with another person's property or be violent to them without consequence? You come at me or in to my home, my 5'0 100#'s is gonna attempt to put you down, quickly. I may lose, but frick you for thinking that was EVER ok. I get to protect myself, with deadly force, if need be.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:41 am to DiamondDog
quote:
It’d have to be egregious like brandishing a gun. I refuse to believe someone trespassing with a crow bar is shot, you won’t get prosecuted. I’d check case law before you start slinging lead.
A crow bar is a weapon, so you can reasonably assume that your life is in danger if someone enters your domicile or business with a crow bar. If that person breaks the window then turns around to leave, then that would be considered a retreat. But if they continue forward and enter, then they are a threat to your life. When we took our CC class, the instructor told us that if you see them breaking into your vehicle, call the police. If they enter your home, that is different.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:12 am to dawgfan24348
quote:Yeah... because all of the current deterrents are working so incredibly well
Well stealing and breaking shite is certainly a crime but it's not one that's punishable by death
eta: I have ZERO sympathy for people who claim shite like this... “Well, yeah, he was breaking the law and got shot/killed... but we’re really mad now. Never mind the fact that he wouldn’t be shot/killed if he WASN’T breaking the law.”
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 6:14 am
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:21 am to yankeeundercover
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:30 am to Dominate308
Legalize it, there should be a reward. Kinda like wildlife and fisheries rewarded of killing nutria rats.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:32 am to Passing Wind
I won't be breaking anybody's windows or burning anybody's property...
You come near mine and I will lite you the frick up... .45 cals, AR15's, Assault Shotguns and hundreds of thousands of rounds. Never show up to a golf game with any clubs...
You come near mine and I will lite you the frick up... .45 cals, AR15's, Assault Shotguns and hundreds of thousands of rounds. Never show up to a golf game with any clubs...
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 6:35 am
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