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re: there are NO consequences in school anymore at all, it is a joke
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:17 pm to LSUguy2023
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:17 pm to LSUguy2023
Lyndon Baines Johnson, Jimmy Carter and uniforms in public schools.
It's been well documented issues at school have gotten worse since the rise of single parent homes exploded, the creation of the Federal DOE and requiring uniforms in public schools.
It's been well documented issues at school have gotten worse since the rise of single parent homes exploded, the creation of the Federal DOE and requiring uniforms in public schools.
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:20 pm to el Gaucho
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Paw paw got busted drunk driving again? Let him go, he’s “on the spectrum”
He’s got to stay hydrated.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:26 pm to Snipe
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Do you believe in God?
Irelevant.
Lack of access to a god isn't the reason for the issues of a school. If parents want their kids to be Christian or Muslim or whatever, then do it at home. Schools don't stop kids from praying, from carrying bibles, from thinking about or having a relationship with their deity. And if your deity needs kids to be indoctrinated via schools, then your religion (or they way your practice your religion) is weak. The schoolhouse door isn't some impregnable bogeyman.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:26 pm to choupiquesushi
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Lyndon Baines Johnson, Jimmy Carter and uniforms in public schools.
It's been well documented issues at school have gotten worse since the rise of single parent homes exploded, the creation of the Federal DOE and requiring uniforms in public schools.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:32 pm to deltadummy
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Irelevant.
Totally relevant.
Do you believe in God? The God of the Christian Bible? You either do or do not, it's simple and relevant.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:01 pm to el Gaucho
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Now that all kids are “on the spectrum” and can’t be held accountable I look forward to the day when it applies to adults
Back in my day they were “retarded.”
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:14 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Were there ever consequences?
Yeah, if you played sports, you ran some stadiums. Maybe you got after school detention and got a head start on your homework.
There were plenty of consequences when I was growing up. The principals from elementary up to High school would light your arse up with a paddle. Do some serious shite and end up in LTI. Hell even my 2nd grade teacher paddled me for not doing my homework one day. Then they called my parents and when I got home, I got the beating a good parent gives to a misfit kid.
My kids certainly didn't get this sort of ease, but they went to private school all their lives. Their friends in public school literally had no idea how to do math or anything they supposedly taught in school. They bragged that all you had to do was lay out every test and most of school and at the end of the semester they would give you a packet of papers to do and those went in place of your tests and were supposed to turn in. It was beyond a joke. Some wouldn't even know how to text if it wasn't for speech to text on their phones.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:35 pm to LSUguy2023
It’s really sad, but this is why the youngsters are getting on your nerves at work.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:42 pm to LSUguy2023
Schools are just teenage daycares.
The real consequences should come from parents too. However, that’s dead. Absent parents let it happen and kids act out.
Cycle repeats itself
The real consequences should come from parents too. However, that’s dead. Absent parents let it happen and kids act out.
Cycle repeats itself
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:43 pm to OlGrandad
I was floored when I found out Iberville Parish had a default low of 55 % so kids couldn’t fail
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:45 pm to Dadren
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His teachers are recording zeros on the due date, then revising grades after the late-as-hell work is completed. He and I are making the same point…it undermines our efforts as parents who give a crap and know this is bad for their development.
I mean he can still punish his kid and withhold shite. If you see the zeros you take away his phone, Xbox etc. I understand the 0s eventually get replaced but I’d tell my kid if I see any more than one zero for an assignment across your classes your phone or game console is gone for a week. Then next week comes and there are no 0s he gets it back. If it’s still there or there are 0s for other assignments you go without for another week.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:48 pm to LSUguy2023
My mom (who was a teacher) said public schools were a zoo as far back as the early 70s.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:02 pm to tylercsbn9
Part of the issue w holding kids accountable for interim late work zeros is the portals used arent always consistent. Students and parents have an overwhelming amount of info now and teachers are responsible to enter more data and to communicate w parents more than ever before. You never know when it's really a.zero and when it is pending or extended. Back in the day (80s/90s for me) my parents had no idea what assignments I had due except large projects like SS fair. Only accountability was at report card time. Heck, in 8th grade I missed so much homework the office asked my parents for permission to paddle me for it. Probably made an impact for a short while but when I forgot a few more times it was.just back to office again for more. Eventually I concluded I'd probably forget again so why bother and just took my licks occasionally when teacher got fed up again. Few years back in front of my Mom I laughed about this and how it would never fly in schools today. She was shocked and nearly cried. Apparently, she thought it was a 1 time permission and when they were never notified about the ongoing issues she thought it worked and I had improved.
Nowadays, getting a B or C average in that 8th grade HS credit Algebra class would make getting into a good state university nearly out of reach. I see why teachers are lenient w academically high achieving students considering most homework is just review and they're getting As on tests.
Nowadays, getting a B or C average in that 8th grade HS credit Algebra class would make getting into a good state university nearly out of reach. I see why teachers are lenient w academically high achieving students considering most homework is just review and they're getting As on tests.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:06 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:where is she now?
My daughter had all kinds of troubles in high school. As parents, we begged the school and the cops to help us by enforcing their own rules and they wouldn't.
Asking for the OT
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:08 pm to tylercsbn9
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I mean he can still punish his kid and withhold shite. If you see the zeros you take away his phone, Xbox etc. I understand the 0s eventually get replaced but I’d tell my kid if I see any more than one zero for an assignment across your classes your phone or game console is gone for a week. Then next week comes and there are no 0s he gets it back. If it’s still there or there are 0s for other assignments you go without for another week.
Serious question, do you have teenagers?
I’m asking because no matter how great of a parent you are or how compliant your teen is, every single one has a limit on how much “because I said so” you can effectively impose before it’s counterproductive.
This is basically what you’re saying. The school is telling them that zero’s are not a problem…but they are “because you say so”.
Yes, there are times you must pull out the “because I said so” card. Again, you can only do that so many times and the school is making you burn one for dumb reasons.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:12 pm to LSUfan4444
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For the life of me I am trying to see how this is a bad thing? One of the main objectives of school is to educate.
Skills such as impulse control and delaying gratification used to be taught at school by having requirements and the kids had to meet them. When you see videos of adults ripping their clothes off and shitting on a plane, they didn’t learn.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:39 pm to tylercsbn9
Retesting/corrections is the grading trend that concerns me more than giving credit for late homework. In Jr High every test can be taken again for up to a mid B. A kid that does all there in class work and assignments can now get an A average despite bad grades on first take of tests.
I'm told our HS does the same in many if not all classes but they're no longer as lenient on late work. So, we reward diligence over comprehension.
I'm told our HS does the same in many if not all classes but they're no longer as lenient on late work. So, we reward diligence over comprehension.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:22 pm to Dadren
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Serious question, do you have teenagers?
I’m asking because no matter how great of a parent you are or how compliant your teen is, every single one has a limit on how much “because I said so” you can effectively impose before it’s counterproductive.
This is basically what you’re saying. The school is telling them that zero’s are not a problem…but they are “because you say so”.
Yes, there are times you must pull out the “because I said so” card. Again, you can only do that so many times and the school is making you burn one for dumb reasons.
Yes
An 18 year old. If he wants to drive the car or have his phone or Xbox he has to get his shite done. It was a pain in the arse for a few months but eventually he got the memo.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:26 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:75% of the zeros are teachers not getting grades in. It’s a damn mess
mean he can still punish his kid and withhold shite. If you see the zeros you take away his phone, Xbox etc. I understand the 0s eventually get replaced but I’d tell my kid if I see any more than one zero for an assignment across your classes your phone or game console is gone for a week. Then next week comes and there are no 0s he gets it back. If it’s still there or there are 0s for other assignments you go without for another week.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:35 pm to BabyTac
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Last I checked it was pretty much always like this.
Lol, students literally got their arse whipped by the principal with a paddle when I was in school. Fast forward 30 years and my wife is now teaching at the same school I went to and got my arse whipped at multiple times, and everything the OP is stating is exactly true.
No one can fail. They have to pass 3rd graders to the next grade regardless of if they can read or write a single sentence. There is no structure in the classroom because no one can get suspended. If they do get suspended, they get to make up everything, but that doesn’t happen because they don’t get suspended. They have blended special ed students into regular classrooms and all the teacher does is redirect. The teachers have to call parents at least 3-4x a week and they often get bitched at and cursed at. Sometimes the Principal is present sometimes not, and very rarely does the principal stand up for the teacher.
Even the grading scale is bullshite. 93 back in the day was a B. Now, it’s a 10 pt grading
scale.
Students can get into fights in the classroom and be back in the classroom 20 minutes later.
Students can call teachers “bitch” and have no consequences.
Guess the one thing all of these situations have in common? I’ll give you a hint, it’s NOT white supremacy.
When a lady on a playground uses a hard “R” because a little shite is stealing something from her son, it’s because of everything I just said.
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