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re: Theo Vonn’s recent podcast about boys and men

Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:32 am to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:32 am to
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just to defend travel ball


You're new here, you'll get used to it.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:35 am to
Rogan with Wody Harrelson was a 10/10
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:38 am to
Sorry your kid is sensitive and needs “bonding time”. I took my kid out of school and “homeschool” him so he can do 12 hours a day of baseball drills. He plays travel ball with the 15 year olds even though he’s 8

When your kid doesn’t make it and has some lame job like doctor mine will be in the show. It’s all about being mentally tough
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:38 am to
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He stated that the suicide rate in males under age 20 has increased 40% since 2010. He said the majority of the suicide notes say the boy feels useless or worthless.


I wonder how many of that group are victims of verbal abuse

As someone who grew up with a dad who constantly would tell me I was worthless and never gonna be worth a shite … for as long as I can remember . Talk about never having any confidence or self esteem. It was so hard to grow up like that . I understand the statistic
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120024 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:39 am to
I think every kid with the physical ability to do so should play sports. When people criticize travel ball, I don't think anyone is saying kids shouldn't play baseball, I criticize the parents more than anything, but yeah kids need to be apart of something.

And that's a huge increase... 40%! Wow.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10926 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:40 am to
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All of you dads who want to go play golf on the weekends with friends or go hunting and fishing with buddies or get home from work and sit on the couch and drink beer and play video games or watch tv and veg out need to work on making your children better at something so they don’t end up feeling useless or worthless.


well said
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41281 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:40 am to
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And that's a huge increase... 40%! Wow.


On the surface yes. But we do need absolute numbers here because if 10 boys committed suicide 2 years ago and 14 did last year that’s a 40% increase.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:41 am to
I think the kids are doing it because the American dream is dead. The only way for a kid to make a living these days is to go pro otherwise they’ll be working at Starbucks and renting with 5 roommates the rest of their life
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:43 am to
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males communicate best when talking shoulder to shoulder or when doing something physical.


This used to be a huge point of contention between my ex and I. When my sons needed “taught” about something they did, I’d usually take them fishing or for a walk, or shooting. During those activities we would talk about what needed covered. Her insistence was to sit them down and have a face to face lecture about it.


She would never listen nor could she understand why they would get more out of things my way.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34875 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:50 am to
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Men don’t want to be talked down to and they want a leader in the trenches alongside them instead of governing them.


I took this to mean that males bond while doing things together, not sharing feelings.

I have a boy and a girl. My daughter and I can talk for hours but my son and I have to share experiences which is a common difference between boys and girls, males and females.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37500 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:50 am to
Maybe the increase in travel ball pressure and the inevitable feeling of failure when they don’t get that scholly and money is connected to the suicide rate in males under age 20 increasing 40% since 2010?
Posted by 3ACES_Ems
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2017
16 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:51 am to
Children benefit from having a father who is engaged in their life and spends time with them. News at 11.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:54 am to
Thats a hell of a long post and roundabout way to justify your travel ball obsession.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23312 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:02 am to
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He also stated that males communicate best when talking shoulder to shoulder or when doing something physical.


Is this not literally travel ball? I doubt the travel ball players are the high suicide risks here, it’s more the kids that don’t have fathers in their life at that age at all.

I’m not pushing travel ball at all, but the exact point of the OP is more time getting exercise with men and boys and that’s literally travel ball.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:04 am to
lol. Yeah, that’s it. Because dad isn’t playing catch. I played sports through HS, football, soccer, hoops. Never ever did it with my dad and I still play hoops in rec leagues in my 40s

It grosses me out how much parents have ruined sports for kids—organized everything, dads super involved. Nobody just watches the kids, they’re all coaching from the sidelines. It’s why these kids can’t solve problems, parents control it all — then we wonder why they feel so powerless and depressed. Because they’re allowed to do almost nothing on their own.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 8:09 am
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
222 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:07 am to
I wasn’t trying to defend travel ball. Dads need to be smart enough to see what’s best for their kids. I was trying to stress the importance of spending time with your kids, helping them be good at something, and making sure they know they are important and loved.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:10 am to
Preach
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
222 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:11 am to
Not true about dream being dead. My son played college ball and majored in engineering. He’s got a great job now and seems like he’s on a path to success.
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:12 am to
My kids did the baseball and football at a young age but since 8 and up I have turned there focus to golf. Starting with putt putt at a very young age and progression to full swinging. Now with teenagers we can all hit the links and have a great time together. So much so that when we are not on the course we are hitting balls in our yard with some friendly competition. Good times!
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83042 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:13 am to
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I also got blasted for saying men don’t spend enough (or any) time naked around other men.


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