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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous

Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Supply and demand. Pay more and you’ll get the workers you need.


This is dumb.

The government can print money. Small businesses cant compete with that. You cant keep telling them to cut profit by raising wages and keep increasing taxes abd regulations on them. They cant survive.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:43 pm to
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When minimum wages increase, everyone's wages increase. 


Lol, no.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:47 pm to
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This is dumb.

The government can print money. Small businesses cant compete with that. You cant keep telling them to cut profit by raising wages and keep increasing taxes abd regulations on them. They cant survive.


It is not dumb. The other businesses are operating inside the same system with the same rules. Hyperinflation is coming but that doesn’t eliminate the value of capitalism.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54506 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:51 pm to
Read the first page and of course the two stupidest posts from Powerman and Spleen. SHOCKER

Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7312 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:02 pm to
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Going on 10 weeks searching for a receptionist Can find someone to answer a phone for $18 an hour


Let's say the reason there is a labor shortage is because people are getting unemployment benefits. That is a very tiny part of the reason, but lets pretend it's the entire issue, like so many of the reductionists on this board like to do.

If you're truly offering $18 an hour to just answer phones, that's almost $200 more weekly than the extended unemployment benefit. Why would a person willing and able to work pass up an opportunity to make more money with the possibility of learning a new skill and maybe even getting benefits that go along with full-time employment? Proof of employment to get an apartment or finance something is sometimes enough for people to seek out employment. You think that you can't fill your position, with all of the extra value on top of listed remuneration because "people are lazy"?

If we can agree that people respond to incentives, it's pretty simple to see that you're having issues finding someone to fill your offered position because of market forces that extend beyond unemployment benefits provided by the government.

I'm not saying there are no people out there content to ride out unemployment as long as possible. I'm saying that blaming lazy people for not being able to fill a position is just as lazy as the people you're accusing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:06 pm to
I was 100% accurate in my statement. shite jobs with shite pay aren't appealing to people.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37492 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
They’ve never been appealing, but they are required for certain industries to work and now that someone else is paying them to not work and the federal government is saying you cannot be evicted, there is no incentive to work.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97635 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:33 pm to
I guess we’ll find out now that extra unemployment benefits are done
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:57 pm to
I should get a second job...And sell my house for a $200K+ payday
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48571 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:02 pm to
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Going on 10 weeks searching for a receptionist

Can find someone to answer a phone for $18 an hour
people can get that being a virtual assistant at home in their pajamas now so driving to an office becomes a less desirable way to make the same money.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:15 am to
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Going on 10 weeks searching for a receptionist

Can find someone to answer a phone for $18 an hour

just had a 19yo college student balk at $28/hr cash, 32hr a week guaranteed, 4 days m-Thur.

to sit at my house with my wife and watch my 9month old while my wife does zoom meeting for work. Offered 2 weeks paid vacation as well,
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:19 am to
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just had a 19yo college student balk at $28/hr cash, 32hr a week guaranteed, 4 days m-Thur.

to sit at my house with my wife and watch my 9month old while my wife does zoom meeting for work. Offered 2 weeks paid vacation as well,



She could probably sense the drug addiction on you
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8814 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:22 am to
Yep.

One of my production facilities is paying workers $6/hr more to stay working, previous rate was probably between $15-$20hr for basic factory work. We still can’t get enough employees.

If you think, “Well just pay more” - that will certainly result in higher consumer prices, on top of the incredible inflation in raws
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
Member since Apr 2013
1900 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:38 am to
As a small business owner I was lucky to keep my staff from pre pandemic. We offered everyone a $3 an hour raise, and an extra week of paid vacation. Yes my profit margin is down because of this but I’d rather sacrifice that than losing staff.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:51 am to
quote:

She could probably sense the drug addiction on you
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38763 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:17 am to
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just had a 19yo college student balk at $28/hr cash, 32hr a week guaranteed, 4 days m-Thur.

a 19 yr old turned down 45K salary cash?
to babysit?

he/she didn’t like yer vibe bruh
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