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re: The USS Gerald R. Ford

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Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:05 am to
Presidents always get the cool shite named after them. Even if they suck.

--Ford was in the Navy in WW2, so was JFK, LBJ, and Nixon. Carter too, but after WW2.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45326 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:06 am to
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I was on the JFK from 78-81. It was the last conventional carrier. We hit 47 knots one time, I know this as I worked in the we office and we had a speed indicator. Word was top speed was 50+ knots. That big ship could fly.


I was on board the USS Pegasus (PHM) in the late 80's. Our "listed" speed with the foil engaged was 48 knots. I was told that we could easily top 60 knots. I was only on it for two months but it was quite an experience.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:11 am to
PS: The Ford has no urinals:
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Posted by LSUTigerSport
Member since Sep 2013
165 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:11 am to
Electromagnetic catapults... far superior to the steam ones. I still want a Battle ship with electromagnetic railguns that shoot up to a 100 miles or so (in arch to to get over the horizon).
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106093 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:25 am to
If any ptesident loses 5000 sailors in 15 minutes that will make him think twice. Dont kid yourself.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35690 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:28 am to
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Electromagnetic catapults... far superior to the steam ones. I still want a Battle ship with electromagnetic railguns that shoot up to a 100 miles or so (in arch to to get over the horizon).
those cats are frought with problems..

why a rail gun when a guided missile or ballistic missile can do the same - with more accuracy
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35690 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:30 am to
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And lest we never forget when Norfolk had all 5 carriers in port at one time. Parking was atrocious and it took half a day just to get to work...


It was awful. I used to love when the carriers went out to sea for that exact reason. It would legitimately take me 45 minutes to get from the 64/264 intersection to the gates off of 564 when the carriers were in port.



ahh.. god bless the creek and that little installation south of portsmouth......for those reasons....
Posted by bubblehead26
Temecula
Member since Apr 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:37 am to
Catapults are working fine and all issues are resolved. They're having trouble with the arresting gear now.

I think the idea of going to emals is to possibly reduce reactor power usage, prolonging the life of the ship. Also, less strain on the ship's backbone during cat shots. Current steam cat shots shake my rack like no other and the steam is loud as shite
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3643 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:37 am to
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You'd think , or hope the government knows the weak spots....


Technology is changing rapidly and when your vested (both emotionally, historically and financially) in a certain way of thinking it is at best very difficult to recognize the vulnerabilities of old tech and strategies to new tech and strategies...

Lets hope we have influential people that think outside the box and challenge the status quo... !!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:05 am to
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If any ptesident loses 5000 sailors in 15 minutes that will make him think twice. Dont kid yourself.


I agree with your assertion that any president would rightfully give pause before risking sailor's lives. But to say that carriers would be bottled up in harbor is not true. The US Navy knows the risks associated with wartime operations at sea.

There are countermeasures for missiles and most foreign submarines would not ever get close enough for a shot as each of our Carrier Battle Groups have robust antisubmarine operations ranging from destroyers, helos, P8 and S3 aircraft, as well as the strongest antisubmarine countermeasure...friendly submarines in the CBG

High casualty rates when ships are lost is not a new phenomenon. Look at the HMS Hood and USS Indianapolis as a high profile example

Wiki of sunken ships in wartime with casualties in upwards of 9K dead
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45999 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:27 am to
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The USS Gerald R. Ford


1,106 feet of America telling the rest of the world to suck it.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6626 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:30 am to
Where are the black folks
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26234 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:34 am to
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Wiki of sunken ships in wartime with casualties in upwards of 9K dead


There is only one ship sinking in history with more than 9k dead. The list of WWII ships that sank with more than 300 dead.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:38 am to
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There is only one ship sinking in history with more than 9k dead. The list of WWII ships that sank with more than 300 dead.


There are 6 alone with 5000+ deaths on that list

HMS Hood lost 1,400

Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:45 am to
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How did a non electected Prez. get the most expensive ship named after them? 


I'm worried that it may not have been wise to name it "Ford". Now it may break down when needed most.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:10 am to
Haha Ford: Fix Or Repair Daily
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
4006 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

why a rail gun when a guided missile or ballistic missile can do the same - with more accuracy



quote:

The Navy likes the weapon for several reasons, not the least of which it has a range of 100 miles and doesn’t require explosive warheads. That makes it far safer for sailors, and cheaper for taxpayers. According to the Navy, each 18-inch projectile costs about $25,000, compared to $500,000 to $1.5 million for conventional missiles.


Wired Article

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117212 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Catapults are working fine and all issues are resolved.


I wonder if there's any issues with cold weather operations (i.e., North Atlantic). Magnets tend to lose strength in cold weather.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141199 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:12 pm to
Does it really take 12-15 years to build one of these?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:20 pm to
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I wonder if there's any issues with cold weather operations (i.e., North Atlantic). Magnets tend to lose strength in cold weather.


They're connected to a friggin' nuclear reactor. Just turn them up to 11.
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