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Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:44 am to soccerfüt
quote:during the Boxer rebellion?
The Koreans (North & South) is/are/was/were muthafrickas.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:07 am to OWLFAN86
Lol
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:13 am to White Roach
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This was guys shooting women, children and old men herded into ditches.
It was mob mentality and it was horrible. I feel love for the helicopter pilot who risked his life to save people.
I didn’t mean to seem flippant. I’ve just read a lot of history. And the Mai Lai Massacre type incident is not as uncommon in American history as we’d like to think.
I just always end up thinking, were there evil people there? Maybe. Where they a majority? Probably not. I wish those people weren’t put in a position where their fury boiled over. So I just end up feeling regret.
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 3:17 am
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:36 am to athenslife101
From the perspective of the 19 or 20 year old grunt, I can completely understand how it happened. It doesn't make it right, but I can see how it could happen. You're losing friends to booby traps, you're getting sniped at, a mortar round or two lands out of nowhere ... but there's no enemy to be seen and little to no evidence of his existence. Meanwhile, you're also getting increasingly desensitized to brutality and you're just trying to finish your tour in one piece. Yes, I can understand how it happened, and happened more than once.
What's more difficult to understand is how the whole chain of command could fail the men they were responsible for leading.
What's more difficult to understand is how the whole chain of command could fail the men they were responsible for leading.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:43 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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The helicopter pilot who witnessed the massacre and landed his bird in between the firing troops and the civilians comes to mind.
That old boy lived in Lafayette for a long time. Flew rotary for PHI, I think.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:00 am to White Roach
quote:Met him. A man of incredible character and courage.
Hugh Thompson.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:45 am to Wolfhound45
The Ken Burns documentary on Vietnam is awesome. If you have not watched it, you should.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:49 am to saintsfan1977
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It's not a good guy, bad guy thing.
It absolutely is though.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:53 am to DavidTheGnome
the americal division itself was well known to have a reputation for pushing beyond the limits of the rules of engagement and inflating body counts by relatively indiscriminate killing.
my lai certainly represents a low point but most historians would agree that the troopers in this division were exposed to especially rotten leadership and systemic devaluation of vietnamese civilian lives.
my lai certainly represents a low point but most historians would agree that the troopers in this division were exposed to especially rotten leadership and systemic devaluation of vietnamese civilian lives.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:21 am to escatawpabuckeye
Weapons of mass destruction/Gulf of Tonkin its all rock n roll to me.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:24 am to JudgeHolden
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That old boy lived in Lafayette for a long time. Flew rotary for PHI, I think.
So did Kris Kristofferson (flew for PHI). I wonder if they knew each other.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:26 am to LeroyBrown
That photo of napalm girl comes to mind when I think of this documentary. I froze 1st time I saw that pic.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:33 am to OWLFAN86
quote:Hell, at least half the posters in the thread would go nuts just camping out overnight in a jungle during peacetime.
War is atrocious, forces humans to do inhumane things average men break. some run in fear, some freeze, others go into a blood spree
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:34 am to escatawpabuckeye
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the troopers in this division were exposed to especially rotten leadership and systemic devaluation of vietnamese civilian lives.
This. Well-trained, well-led troops do not commit atrocities.
Calley should never have been in charge of anything, but it went a lot deeper than that.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:42 am to OWLFAN86
Think Thomason worked for thr VA in Lafayette, May have died in pineville at the VA hospital, just guessing
Posted on 2/24/19 at 8:00 am to DavidTheGnome
Former BR district attorney Ossie Brown defended a soldier involved in the massacre and won the case. The only defendant acquitted I think. Mr. Brown was also a drum major in TGBFTL.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 8:10 am to DavidTheGnome
Tht whole series is much watch TV. I was born in the early 70's and thought I knew about Vietnam....I didn't. Every kid in America should be required to watch.
So many lives lost, lives ruined.....for what?
So many lives lost, lives ruined.....for what?
Posted on 2/24/19 at 8:17 am to sosaysmorvant
It's disgusting to me that nixon commuted calleys sentence.
My step brother, marine pilot shot down in viet nam, was saved by chopper. Special people.
My step brother, marine pilot shot down in viet nam, was saved by chopper. Special people.
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 8:19 am
Posted on 2/24/19 at 8:21 am to sosaysmorvant
There was a part of the documentary where this Anti-war young kid approached a house of the woman who lost her son. And she threatened to shoot him because she said he died so he can protest. It’s sad that her son die but it’s a lie that’s she was fed. Her son die for the politicians and their bad decisions. People in Netherlands protest the war. They didn’t send anyone to VN.
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