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re: The Lost Cause lied to you. Your ancestors didn't support the Confederacy nor secession.

Posted on 4/12/26 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6912 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 10:31 pm to
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The Lost Cause lied to you. Your ancestors didn't support the Confederacy nor secession


wrong, 7 of my 8 GG Grandfathers volunteered and served in the Confederate Army
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 10:50 pm to
Name checks out
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 10:55 pm to
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uploaded the paper into Gemini Pro and created a podcast on the paper. Gemini got no input from me other than the paper. It's pretty interesting as the AI gives analysis and opinion on the paper. Check it out.


Ok, that program is pretty cool
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58211 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 11:03 pm to
Yeah. It's scary how natural and real it sounds.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58211 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 11:05 pm to
I was comparing it to WW1 as I stated. Read what I wrote, dumbass
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
10288 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 11:13 pm to
MY bad!!!!
I will edit that out immediately!!!
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:34 am to
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They can look back and confidently say the south was right about the Union.



Lol

quote:

For every person in East Tennessee or western North Carolina that was a unionist there were pro confederacy northerners as well. Something to keep in mind.



Nah. Mostly just chuds.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:58 am to
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Conservatve Southern planters knew the cause was hopeless as soon as the radical, fire-eater Democrats seceded from the Union.



The wealthy planters are the ones who put the Democrats in place for the sole reason of Seceding.

They are the ones who wanted secession and pushed for War, because they knew that their industry was threatened by the growing abolitionist support and the election was the confirmation that they were not going to have enough political power to block it.

Once their plan to prevent Lincoln's election failed (his name was omitted on every Southern State's ballot, and he still won) they started the wheels on Secession.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:22 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:01 am to
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All farmers felt the weight of tariffs. The 40 bales speech made it clear how bad the Yankees were fricking over the South, plantations and yeoman alike.



I can't let this one pass by.



The Merchants of New Orleans were extremely anti secession because they relied on the Federal Government's trade and tariffs for their business.

This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:02 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:03 am to
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The idea that the average southern white was sympathetic with the north/aboltionism is one of the most ahistorical things ever stated on this forum, and that is quite a feat.



I never said that they were sympathetic to either.


They were against secession and the Confederacy.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9081 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:08 am to
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The Merchants of New Orleans were extremely anti secession because they relied on the Federal Government's trade and tariffs for their business.


Correct.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:19 am to
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RIPMachoMan


The both of us are going to be down voted for stating a fact and told that we have to look at the underlying nuance instead of taking what was actually said or inked on paper to heart.


Apparently the Confederacy is like Jazz: It's not about what you can hear, you have to listen to the notes that aren't being played to really understand it.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:25 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:36 am to
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Majority looked at them as invaders.


That didn't last long. Eventually they viewed them as liberators, even helped them with scouting reports so they didn't march into ambushes or traps.

Confederate deserters warned Grant about the artillery in Vicksburg and about army movements and positions around Jackson. Then helped Union armies track down and defeat those regimants.

They raided Confederate armories and supply depots, sabotaged supply lines, railroads, and bridges. Acted as Robin hood by taking the taxes collected by the tax authorities and dispersed it back to the locals.

They provided safety and protection from conscription and also provided both to runaway slaves.



It's all in the article linked in the OP. Give it a read.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10317 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:40 am to
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That didn't last long. Eventually they viewed them as liberators


You are absolutely and completely full of shite.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
5024 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:13 am to
Tell this to those seeking ‘reparations’ for slavery
Posted by Galloglaich
Member since Apr 2026
108 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:25 am to
Oh no, are you trying to give the average O-Ter nightmares? The confederacy was a failed shite hole propped up by cotton, slaves, and arrogance.

Gone With The Wind
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 3:30 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 5:45 am to
Lots of posters ancestors were draft dodgers.

Go figure.


Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
19978 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 5:59 am to
In true Kentucky fence riding fashion, my dad's side fought for the South and my mom's for the North.

Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16988 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 6:03 am to
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"It's the Rich man's war, but the poor man's fight."



nothing changes
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24891 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 6:28 am to
Vast majority looked at them as invaders.
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