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re: The Infrastructure Bill Requires New Cars To Come With Drunk Driving Detection Technology.

Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:57 am to
Posted by Turbo_Buffalo
Member since Mar 2021
394 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:57 am to
Now no one is free. Congrats, you pussies
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5085 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:09 am to
The tyranny of enforced “safety” is really starting to get on my nerves.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6988 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:26 am to
So me and my wife are home. Having some wine with dinner.

My child decides to take a dive down the stairs.

Now I have to call an ambulance because we can't start our vehicles?

Dumb
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11907 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:35 am to
I better hold onto the Tundra.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15974 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:39 am to
If the technology is there and it works then it really does make sense to put into cars

Buy stock in
Tesla (driverless) and
Uber

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73134 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:43 am to
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If the technology is there


as we’ve learned in the past with government buyouts in the automative industry, it doesn’t really matter if the technology is there does it?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30425 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:43 am to
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TDsngumbo

quote:

 I see no problem with this 


The liberal voter, folks.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30425 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:46 am to
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You didn’t pay extra for it.

It can be turned off.


You must not understand trim levels at all.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40131 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:49 am to
Police unions will hate this.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7123 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 9:25 am to
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I see no problem with this


The problem I see is that a car will cost more because of this.

Just one more way for people to be protected from themselves and expecting that the government eliminate all risk from life. Eliminating risk always has a cost.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11586 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:04 am to
Interlocking devices for everyone. Guilty until proved innocent.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41345 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:14 am to
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why not also add in speed controls to the gps and mileage tax tracker? a lot of deaths involve speeds over the limit. could also probably disable vehicles when seatbelts arent fastened. you could also make it to where the car makes the phone die if texting while driving. hell why not just ball gag drivers since any distraction is dangerous? frick man i dont understand why the government even allows people to drive in the first place too many possible things could cost lives.


We should all just use public transportation and walk everywhere.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3180 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:39 am to
So, because 1% of drivers, 1% of the time get in the car too drunk to drive, I will now be forced to blow every time I go to work in the morning and every 20 minutes on the way to work?

Note: There is an intermediate precaution that appears to be skipped right over.

Kinda-like lane assistance, just have that be an available option for cars. It can either be in "Active" mode, as in will prevent car from starting, or "Passive" where optionally you can test your breath before starting the car (Results not logged), this may be of use when you're not sure.

Parents can set their kid's mode to "Active" as a matter of parenting. OR a judge can force it just like they do now in DUI cases.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5949 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:06 am to
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I will now be forced to blow every time


No...that's not how the tech will work.

Touch System:
This technology measures blood alcohol levels under the skin’s surface by shining an infrared-light through the fingertip of the driver. It will be integrated into current vehicle controls, such as the start button or steering wheel, and take multiple, accurate readings.

Breath System:
This system measures alcohol as a driver breathes normally, when in the driver's seat. It will be designed to take instantaneous readings as the driver breathes normally and to accurately and reliably distinguish between the driver’s breath and that of any passengers.
Posted by lsut2005
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
2680 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:16 am to
Most people don’t realize that you’re over the limit after 2 or so drinks. Split a bottle of wine at dinner? You’re out of luck. frick the government and anyone who supports this.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162072 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:23 am to
Walt is so progressive he’s had one of these in his car for years
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6748 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:24 am to
50 years from now, some smooth-brained descendant of TheSpleen will state (without sarcasm) "The people against the government putting a camera in your house would have been against our vehicle's breathalyzer"

Progressivism must be stopped.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3180 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:47 pm to
There's another MADD infused scientific slight of hand that gets slid into this. One of the major reasons the limit is set at 0.08% (vs. say, 0.1% or 0.12%) is to create the psychological impact of "X driver crashed, killing 2, was driving with a BAC OVER TWICE the legal limit" type headlines.

I mean that quite literally, the BAC limit was dropped from 0.10/0.12 to 0.08, with the main argument that it will lower the number of drivers driving at 0.16%+ (There wasn't a flock of drivers out there crashing with measured BAC's of 0.083%).

This isn't necessarily a problem, so long as the enforcement mechanism is a police officer stopping a driver on probable cause and confirming that probable cause via testing.

However, if the idea is that every vehicle in America won't start if the driver has a BAC of 0.08% (+/- the accuracy of the machine) that's not even close to the intent of what the pseudo-scientific limit was ever even based on. This has the impact of de-facto criminalizing people who aren't all presenting all that much risk to society (meanwhile, your town "I'll drive when I want to" drunk is paying to bypass that system with any of the 1000+ ways there is to do it).

It's a similar idea as speeding. The speed limit on any given street isn't 55MPH because 56MPH is reckless on a scientific level. It's set there to present the vision that driving 77MPH on that same stretch of road as OBVIOUSLY reckless. As a result, people get pissed when a camera sends tickets to everyone +4 MPH over on that stretch of road (regardless of actual safety impact).
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39893 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:48 pm to
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I know MADD supports this, but I bet police and sheriff’s unions will quietly oppose this.


MADD is the rebranded Woman's Christian Temperance Union
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18849 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Most people don’t realize that you’re over the limit after 2 or so drinks


It's about 4 drinks for most people I believe
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