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re: The Infrastructure Bill Requires New Cars To Come With Drunk Driving Detection Technology.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:57 am to Turbo_Buffalo
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:57 am to Turbo_Buffalo
Now no one is free. Congrats, you pussies
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:09 am to loogaroo
The tyranny of enforced “safety” is really starting to get on my nerves.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:26 am to Earnest_P
So me and my wife are home. Having some wine with dinner.
My child decides to take a dive down the stairs.
Now I have to call an ambulance because we can't start our vehicles?
Dumb
My child decides to take a dive down the stairs.
Now I have to call an ambulance because we can't start our vehicles?
Dumb
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:35 am to loogaroo
I better hold onto the Tundra.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:39 am to loogaroo
If the technology is there and it works then it really does make sense to put into cars
Buy stock in
Tesla (driverless) and
Uber
Buy stock in
Tesla (driverless) and
Uber
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:43 am to SlidellCajun
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If the technology is there
as we’ve learned in the past with government buyouts in the automative industry, it doesn’t really matter if the technology is there does it?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:43 am to TDsngumbo
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TDsngumbo
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I see no problem with this
The liberal voter, folks.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:46 am to Havoc
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You didn’t pay extra for it.
It can be turned off.
You must not understand trim levels at all.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 6:49 am to loogaroo
Police unions will hate this.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 9:25 am to TDsngumbo
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I see no problem with this
The problem I see is that a car will cost more because of this.
Just one more way for people to be protected from themselves and expecting that the government eliminate all risk from life. Eliminating risk always has a cost.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:04 am to loogaroo
Interlocking devices for everyone. Guilty until proved innocent.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:14 am to AMS
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why not also add in speed controls to the gps and mileage tax tracker? a lot of deaths involve speeds over the limit. could also probably disable vehicles when seatbelts arent fastened. you could also make it to where the car makes the phone die if texting while driving. hell why not just ball gag drivers since any distraction is dangerous? frick man i dont understand why the government even allows people to drive in the first place too many possible things could cost lives.
We should all just use public transportation and walk everywhere.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:39 am to loogaroo
So, because 1% of drivers, 1% of the time get in the car too drunk to drive, I will now be forced to blow every time I go to work in the morning and every 20 minutes on the way to work?
Note: There is an intermediate precaution that appears to be skipped right over.
Kinda-like lane assistance, just have that be an available option for cars. It can either be in "Active" mode, as in will prevent car from starting, or "Passive" where optionally you can test your breath before starting the car (Results not logged), this may be of use when you're not sure.
Parents can set their kid's mode to "Active" as a matter of parenting. OR a judge can force it just like they do now in DUI cases.
Note: There is an intermediate precaution that appears to be skipped right over.
Kinda-like lane assistance, just have that be an available option for cars. It can either be in "Active" mode, as in will prevent car from starting, or "Passive" where optionally you can test your breath before starting the car (Results not logged), this may be of use when you're not sure.
Parents can set their kid's mode to "Active" as a matter of parenting. OR a judge can force it just like they do now in DUI cases.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:06 am to BRIllini07
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I will now be forced to blow every time
No...that's not how the tech will work.
Touch System:
This technology measures blood alcohol levels under the skin’s surface by shining an infrared-light through the fingertip of the driver. It will be integrated into current vehicle controls, such as the start button or steering wheel, and take multiple, accurate readings.
Breath System:
This system measures alcohol as a driver breathes normally, when in the driver's seat. It will be designed to take instantaneous readings as the driver breathes normally and to accurately and reliably distinguish between the driver’s breath and that of any passengers.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:16 am to loogaroo
Most people don’t realize that you’re over the limit after 2 or so drinks. Split a bottle of wine at dinner? You’re out of luck. frick the government and anyone who supports this.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:23 am to loogaroo
Walt is so progressive he’s had one of these in his car for years
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:24 am to loogaroo
50 years from now, some smooth-brained descendant of TheSpleen will state (without sarcasm) "The people against the government putting a camera in your house would have been against our vehicle's breathalyzer"
Progressivism must be stopped.
Progressivism must be stopped.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:47 pm to MardiGrasCajun
There's another MADD infused scientific slight of hand that gets slid into this. One of the major reasons the limit is set at 0.08% (vs. say, 0.1% or 0.12%) is to create the psychological impact of "X driver crashed, killing 2, was driving with a BAC OVER TWICE the legal limit" type headlines.
I mean that quite literally, the BAC limit was dropped from 0.10/0.12 to 0.08, with the main argument that it will lower the number of drivers driving at 0.16%+ (There wasn't a flock of drivers out there crashing with measured BAC's of 0.083%).
This isn't necessarily a problem, so long as the enforcement mechanism is a police officer stopping a driver on probable cause and confirming that probable cause via testing.
However, if the idea is that every vehicle in America won't start if the driver has a BAC of 0.08% (+/- the accuracy of the machine) that's not even close to the intent of what the pseudo-scientific limit was ever even based on. This has the impact of de-facto criminalizing people who aren't all presenting all that much risk to society (meanwhile, your town "I'll drive when I want to" drunk is paying to bypass that system with any of the 1000+ ways there is to do it).
It's a similar idea as speeding. The speed limit on any given street isn't 55MPH because 56MPH is reckless on a scientific level. It's set there to present the vision that driving 77MPH on that same stretch of road as OBVIOUSLY reckless. As a result, people get pissed when a camera sends tickets to everyone +4 MPH over on that stretch of road (regardless of actual safety impact).
I mean that quite literally, the BAC limit was dropped from 0.10/0.12 to 0.08, with the main argument that it will lower the number of drivers driving at 0.16%+ (There wasn't a flock of drivers out there crashing with measured BAC's of 0.083%).
This isn't necessarily a problem, so long as the enforcement mechanism is a police officer stopping a driver on probable cause and confirming that probable cause via testing.
However, if the idea is that every vehicle in America won't start if the driver has a BAC of 0.08% (+/- the accuracy of the machine) that's not even close to the intent of what the pseudo-scientific limit was ever even based on. This has the impact of de-facto criminalizing people who aren't all presenting all that much risk to society (meanwhile, your town "I'll drive when I want to" drunk is paying to bypass that system with any of the 1000+ ways there is to do it).
It's a similar idea as speeding. The speed limit on any given street isn't 55MPH because 56MPH is reckless on a scientific level. It's set there to present the vision that driving 77MPH on that same stretch of road as OBVIOUSLY reckless. As a result, people get pissed when a camera sends tickets to everyone +4 MPH over on that stretch of road (regardless of actual safety impact).
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:48 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I know MADD supports this, but I bet police and sheriff’s unions will quietly oppose this.
MADD is the rebranded Woman's Christian Temperance Union
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:51 pm to lsut2005
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Most people don’t realize that you’re over the limit after 2 or so drinks
It's about 4 drinks for most people I believe
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