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re: The idea that we each have a 'learning style' is nonsense
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to Pecker
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to Pecker
First, the study blends study strategies with lecture strategies. Learning during self (or guided) study is different from absorbing a classroom presentation.
Second, none of this is really a reason not to employ multiple styles in classroom presentation. As other people note, it isn't rocket science to integrate different learning styles into a classroom presentation.
Last, yes, effective study habits in and our of the classroom make a huge difference. Style arguments shouldn't obscure the importance of good study habits.
Second, none of this is really a reason not to employ multiple styles in classroom presentation. As other people note, it isn't rocket science to integrate different learning styles into a classroom presentation.
Last, yes, effective study habits in and our of the classroom make a huge difference. Style arguments shouldn't obscure the importance of good study habits.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:16 am to Pecker
I have taught thousands of adults and I can tell you that there is 100% a difference between teaching kids and adults.
You can call it "learning style" or whatever you want but the fact remains that you can lock kids in a room and drill things into their head. Adults on the other hand have so much competing for their head space that you have to fight to get in there.
Kids aren't sitting in class worrying about their mortgage payment and whether their old lady is banging the pool boy while you are off at work.
You can call it "learning style" or whatever you want but the fact remains that you can lock kids in a room and drill things into their head. Adults on the other hand have so much competing for their head space that you have to fight to get in there.
Kids aren't sitting in class worrying about their mortgage payment and whether their old lady is banging the pool boy while you are off at work.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:17 am to Pecker
So what you’re saying is it’s easier for some people to process information depending on the way they receive it, however there is no substitute for studying and solving problems
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:46 am to Pecker
Before you can debunk learning styles show us material that was developed for those styles.
The microscope is a tool. if class requires use of tool, singing won't help.
This debunking is weak without more info.
Teachers, have you learned how to teach identical material.in the three ways? What topic?
The microscope is a tool. if class requires use of tool, singing won't help.
This debunking is weak without more info.
Teachers, have you learned how to teach identical material.in the three ways? What topic?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:54 am to Pecker
Is there a video on the report? I'm more of visual learner
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:56 am to QJenk
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I don't know if I would say it is completely nonsense.
I will unequivocally state it's not nonsense.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:58 am to Pecker
I agree with you on this one Pecker.
EVERYONE learns better by doing. It's the only way to actually apply lessons and keeps the student's attention for better than any other method. Now, the "doing" can be supplemented with written instructions or how-to videos, but just about everyone won't fully understand a lesson until the perform the task associated with it.
It's why learning a language requires so much writing and talking, learning math requires real-world applications, and science requires labs. History is obviously the toughest battle but the best teachers of history are those who find a way to help place the student in that era and time. But learning dates will always be memorization.
EVERYONE learns better by doing. It's the only way to actually apply lessons and keeps the student's attention for better than any other method. Now, the "doing" can be supplemented with written instructions or how-to videos, but just about everyone won't fully understand a lesson until the perform the task associated with it.
It's why learning a language requires so much writing and talking, learning math requires real-world applications, and science requires labs. History is obviously the toughest battle but the best teachers of history are those who find a way to help place the student in that era and time. But learning dates will always be memorization.
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:07 pm to Pecker
When students are placed in a academic environment structured to serve one learning style it is not surprising that trying to adapt their own style of learning to that environment didn't work. Students need to be in situations that are compatible with their style of learning to function at a optimum level, not the other way around.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:10 pm to HottyToddy7
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You are either intelligent and have the ability to retain information or you don’t. Kind of like a baseball player. You can either hit or can’t hit. Not much hitting lessons for Jayden are going to help.
Sure, but there are very intelligent people that have a hard time retaining information when read...or when heard...etc.
One of the smartest guys I know has some sort of crazy ADD where he can't for the life of him remember conversations or things spoken to him because he can't focus on the spoken words, but if he reads or writes it, he'll never forget it.
He's got a PhD in Mathematics.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:14 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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Don't most teachers inadvertently hit a few of the styles?
They discuss what they're teaching (audible), hand out study sheets (text based) and you have pictures in school books (visual).
I'm not sure it is inadvertent.
It is the best way to teach. If you see, touch, and hear the same things you have a far better chance of recalling that information later.
However, people are certainly more capable of recalling that information when presented in certain forms. I am not good at recalling auditory lectures or conversations. But if I write it down, or if I can somehow be hands on with the material, I'll probably recall it very well.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:15 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You are either intelligent and have the ability to retain information or you don’t
Or you could be intelligent and not have the ability to retain information. I guess it depends on how you define intelligence.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:22 pm to sealawyer
This board is insane.
Nothing new.
Nothing new.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:26 pm to Pecker
2 comments, not to the contrary, but as general agreement with an additional perspective.
1. It's ultimately on the person to be motivated to learn. A particular "learning style" may trigger that motivation or otherwise engage them when others wouldn't. To that end, differing styles could be good, but if motivation is static no matter what, none will be better than the other.
2. Learning styles are useful for varied repetition (repetition being the ultimate "style" that works for everyone). Hearing, then writing, then doing it keeps the subject fresh in a way that allows the repetition of the core concept to take hold.
1. It's ultimately on the person to be motivated to learn. A particular "learning style" may trigger that motivation or otherwise engage them when others wouldn't. To that end, differing styles could be good, but if motivation is static no matter what, none will be better than the other.
2. Learning styles are useful for varied repetition (repetition being the ultimate "style" that works for everyone). Hearing, then writing, then doing it keeps the subject fresh in a way that allows the repetition of the core concept to take hold.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:34 pm to Pecker
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The reality is that the path to actually learning information is virtually the same. If you want to retain information on Alexander the Great, you need the motivation to read about his life multiple times. Some people will require more practice, but the path is still the same.
What about visual learners who will retain more information learning about the life of Alexander the Great through video documentaries?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:38 pm to Pecker
I think a good amount is attributed to the kids life away from school.
A good home life and ideal parents will trump a particular style of teaching a kid receives
Also some people are just stupid regardless of the teaching. Look at this board. I wouldn't trust some of these people to babysit an ant farm
A good home life and ideal parents will trump a particular style of teaching a kid receives
Also some people are just stupid regardless of the teaching. Look at this board. I wouldn't trust some of these people to babysit an ant farm
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:41 pm to Pecker
Thanks doctor, would you like to share your medical credentials so we can know how seriously we are supposed to consider your opinion? Thanks again
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:42 pm to Pecker
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The reality is that the path to actually learning information is virtually the same. If you want to retain information on Alexander the Great, you need the motivation to read about his life multiple times.
This is what I think "learning styles" boils down to really, motivation and engagement. You can't learn something if you're not fully engaged. For some, they may lack the motivation to read passages from a text book over and over, or listen to a professor drone on for an hour, and thus aren't fully engaged in the material and will not retain the information or understanding of that information. They then in turn think they can't learn from "just reading" when in fact they probably could if they truly tried.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:58 pm to Pecker
I can learn in 5 minutes with my hands what takes you 8hrs to teach (and I most probably won't remember it). Words and PowerPoints do nothing for me
Posted on 2/4/19 at 1:02 pm to Pecker
I'll eventually learn no matter which way I'm taught, but there are ways that will get me there quicker than others.
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