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re: The idea that we each have a 'learning style' is nonsense

Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to
First, the study blends study strategies with lecture strategies. Learning during self (or guided) study is different from absorbing a classroom presentation.

Second, none of this is really a reason not to employ multiple styles in classroom presentation. As other people note, it isn't rocket science to integrate different learning styles into a classroom presentation.

Last, yes, effective study habits in and our of the classroom make a huge difference. Style arguments shouldn't obscure the importance of good study habits.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20373 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:16 am to
I have taught thousands of adults and I can tell you that there is 100% a difference between teaching kids and adults.

You can call it "learning style" or whatever you want but the fact remains that you can lock kids in a room and drill things into their head. Adults on the other hand have so much competing for their head space that you have to fight to get in there.

Kids aren't sitting in class worrying about their mortgage payment and whether their old lady is banging the pool boy while you are off at work.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31623 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:17 am to
So what you’re saying is it’s easier for some people to process information depending on the way they receive it, however there is no substitute for studying and solving problems
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:46 am to
Before you can debunk learning styles show us material that was developed for those styles.

The microscope is a tool. if class requires use of tool, singing won't help.

This debunking is weak without more info.

Teachers, have you learned how to teach identical material.in the three ways? What topic?

Posted by CoachCredeur
Rayne
Member since Jul 2013
170 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:54 am to
Is there a video on the report? I'm more of visual learner
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:56 am to
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I don't know if I would say it is completely nonsense.


I will unequivocally state it's not nonsense.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88411 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:58 am to
I agree with you on this one Pecker.

EVERYONE learns better by doing. It's the only way to actually apply lessons and keeps the student's attention for better than any other method. Now, the "doing" can be supplemented with written instructions or how-to videos, but just about everyone won't fully understand a lesson until the perform the task associated with it.

It's why learning a language requires so much writing and talking, learning math requires real-world applications, and science requires labs. History is obviously the toughest battle but the best teachers of history are those who find a way to help place the student in that era and time. But learning dates will always be memorization.
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Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:07 pm to
When students are placed in a academic environment structured to serve one learning style it is not surprising that trying to adapt their own style of learning to that environment didn't work. Students need to be in situations that are compatible with their style of learning to function at a optimum level, not the other way around.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

You are either intelligent and have the ability to retain information or you don’t. Kind of like a baseball player. You can either hit or can’t hit. Not much hitting lessons for Jayden are going to help.


Sure, but there are very intelligent people that have a hard time retaining information when read...or when heard...etc.

One of the smartest guys I know has some sort of crazy ADD where he can't for the life of him remember conversations or things spoken to him because he can't focus on the spoken words, but if he reads or writes it, he'll never forget it.

He's got a PhD in Mathematics.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Don't most teachers inadvertently hit a few of the styles?

They discuss what they're teaching (audible), hand out study sheets (text based) and you have pictures in school books (visual).


I'm not sure it is inadvertent.

It is the best way to teach. If you see, touch, and hear the same things you have a far better chance of recalling that information later.

However, people are certainly more capable of recalling that information when presented in certain forms. I am not good at recalling auditory lectures or conversations. But if I write it down, or if I can somehow be hands on with the material, I'll probably recall it very well.



Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2370 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

You are either intelligent and have the ability to retain information or you don’t


Or you could be intelligent and not have the ability to retain information. I guess it depends on how you define intelligence.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79733 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:22 pm to
This board is insane.


Nothing new.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71820 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:26 pm to
2 comments, not to the contrary, but as general agreement with an additional perspective.

1. It's ultimately on the person to be motivated to learn. A particular "learning style" may trigger that motivation or otherwise engage them when others wouldn't. To that end, differing styles could be good, but if motivation is static no matter what, none will be better than the other.

2. Learning styles are useful for varied repetition (repetition being the ultimate "style" that works for everyone). Hearing, then writing, then doing it keeps the subject fresh in a way that allows the repetition of the core concept to take hold.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70121 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:27 pm to
Terrible troll atetempt
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

The reality is that the path to actually learning information is virtually the same. If you want to retain information on Alexander the Great, you need the motivation to read about his life multiple times. Some people will require more practice, but the path is still the same.


What about visual learners who will retain more information learning about the life of Alexander the Great through video documentaries?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:38 pm to
I think a good amount is attributed to the kids life away from school.

A good home life and ideal parents will trump a particular style of teaching a kid receives

Also some people are just stupid regardless of the teaching. Look at this board. I wouldn't trust some of these people to babysit an ant farm
Posted by RetroThunder
Member since Jun 2018
113 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:41 pm to
Thanks doctor, would you like to share your medical credentials so we can know how seriously we are supposed to consider your opinion? Thanks again
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
898 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

The reality is that the path to actually learning information is virtually the same. If you want to retain information on Alexander the Great, you need the motivation to read about his life multiple times.


This is what I think "learning styles" boils down to really, motivation and engagement. You can't learn something if you're not fully engaged. For some, they may lack the motivation to read passages from a text book over and over, or listen to a professor drone on for an hour, and thus aren't fully engaged in the material and will not retain the information or understanding of that information. They then in turn think they can't learn from "just reading" when in fact they probably could if they truly tried.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:58 pm to
I can learn in 5 minutes with my hands what takes you 8hrs to teach (and I most probably won't remember it). Words and PowerPoints do nothing for me
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24330 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 1:02 pm to

I'll eventually learn no matter which way I'm taught, but there are ways that will get me there quicker than others.
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