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re: The idea that we each have a 'learning style' is nonsense
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:38 am to High C
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:38 am to High C
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I am a teacher and have never believed in learning styles, nor have I used them in lesson development.
Don't most teachers inadvertently hit a few of the styles?
They discuss what they're teaching (audible), hand out study sheets (text based) and you have pictures in school books (visual).
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:39 am to Pecker
What's apparent is you absolutely have no clue how "learning style" is used and why it is important.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:39 am to Pecker
i would disagree with this a bit. I can read something over and over and still not get it. Show me something once and I can get it pretty quickly.
In college, as long as i did the physical activity of taking notes (like calc, physics, engineering, etc.), I didn't have to study. I could absorb it quickly.
In classes where it was reading based or just someone talking, I had a very hard time absorbing it and processing it well enough to understand it.
For math specifically, teachers that combined the visual graphing of everything like derivatives, integrals, matrices, etc. it made everything click. When teach just did equations, it was more difficult to piece it all together and see how it was related. But seeing something in graphical form made it super easy to remember equations and such because I could build them based on something i could see or remember seeing.
In college, as long as i did the physical activity of taking notes (like calc, physics, engineering, etc.), I didn't have to study. I could absorb it quickly.
In classes where it was reading based or just someone talking, I had a very hard time absorbing it and processing it well enough to understand it.
For math specifically, teachers that combined the visual graphing of everything like derivatives, integrals, matrices, etc. it made everything click. When teach just did equations, it was more difficult to piece it all together and see how it was related. But seeing something in graphical form made it super easy to remember equations and such because I could build them based on something i could see or remember seeing.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:39 am to Pecker
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This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:40 am to Pecker
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Do we each have preferences when it comes to how we receive information? Sure.
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The idea that we each have a 'learning style' is nonsense
Holy contradiction
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:42 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Don't most teachers inadvertently hit a few of the styles?
Absolutely.
I've never even been to a seminar which didn't.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:43 am to Pecker
I am primarily a visual learner. If you just describe something to me with no visuals I will be lost. But at the same time I can remember something better short term (like a string of numbers) if I say them out loud.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:46 am to dixiechick
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One of the biggest myths/fraud in education. Complete waste of time and money.
It's one of those things that even if you show people evidence that it's not true, they'll continue to believe it. We all have this hard-wired notion of learning styles.
"I'm a visual learner." "I'm a hands-on type of learner."
The reality is that the path to actually learning information is virtually the same. If you want to retain information on Alexander the Great, you need the motivation to read about his life multiple times. Some people will require more practice, but the path is still the same.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:49 am to LordSaintly
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Holy contradiction
Well you obviously didn't real the OP. Which is a terrible way to learn tbh.
Researchers spoke to that specifically. Students who said they preferred certain methods didn't actually fair better when they implemented those learning methods, when compared to the students who didn't use their preferred methods.
They found that by and large the students learned through similar kinds of practice.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:51 am to Pecker
None of these studies matter. I feel learning styles are a thing. I can spit out anecdotes to support my feelings. You can take your facts and piss off. This is 2019.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:54 am to HottyToddy7
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Source - am teacher.
But clearly not a baseball coach.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:56 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Don't most teachers inadvertently hit a few of the styles? They discuss what they're teaching (audible), hand out study sheets (text based) and you have pictures in school books (visual).
Absolutely. I find that it takes care of itself, but I don't consciously create a lesson thinking, "What can I do for my tactile learners."
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:56 am to StringedInstruments
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Edit edit - well, Pecker, you son of a bitch. You’ve got me thinking today. Turns out there’s a whole host of research out there challenging, questioning, and debunking learning styles.
Yep. The question at this point is whether there's any benefit to focusing on what students perceive to be their "learning style."
If you're convinced that you have a particular learning style then so be it, but in a practical sense does it really mean anything if you aren't actually learning better when we cater to your learning style?
My interest in this came from listening to a successful businessman, I think it was Elon Musk but I don't recall, discussing the worthless things we focus on in schools such as the nonsense of learning styles.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:59 am to Pecker
I think this is correct to a certain extent. However, in my own experience, I learn better through repetition and doing it myself after somebody has shown me. I’m not very good at learning via somebody telling me how, I can’t visualize things happening in my head unless I’ve already practiced with it.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:59 am to Pecker
Pecker, I agree with your take.
If focusing on individual learning styles in the classroom does not produce results, then it is a waste of school and taxpayer resources to make it a focus.
Whether or not we have different preferred learning styles is not the issue. It's about whether or not it is worth diverting scarce teaching resources away from learning other skills.
If focusing on individual learning styles in the classroom does not produce results, then it is a waste of school and taxpayer resources to make it a focus.
Whether or not we have different preferred learning styles is not the issue. It's about whether or not it is worth diverting scarce teaching resources away from learning other skills.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:00 am to Pecker
What is a puzzle to me is why so many educated people have so little common sense.Wy wife’s family esp.full of highly educated people that can’t seem to get it together in life.My stepson is probably the worst,he is 45,has 3 college degrees but his life has been 1 crisis after another.It’s like he has to learn every life lesson the hard way.Myself,I tended to pay attention to other people’s lives and saw what worked and what didn’t and follow their example.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:05 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I think this is correct to a certain extent. However, in my own experience, I learn better through repetition and doing it myself after somebody has shown me. I’m not very good at learning via somebody telling me how.
I think that is called being a human being. Show me anyone who learns better by just being told what to do vs working through a problem themselves? Some people may better process/understand on the fly what is being asked of them, but everyone learns best by doing. Some of that has to do with how well someone may already understand the problem space they are working in.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:08 am to Pecker
Learning is a combination of that entire Venn Diagram.
It's on the person doing the teaching to put the curriculum together, in an order that is understandable.
You wouldn't skip from A to C, without B. Or you wouldn't start at B, without having covered A, etc etc.
It's on the person doing the teaching to put the curriculum together, in an order that is understandable.
You wouldn't skip from A to C, without B. Or you wouldn't start at B, without having covered A, etc etc.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to CivilTiger83
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Some people may better process/understand on the fly what is being asked of them, but everyone learns best by doing. Some of that has to do with how well someone may already understand the problem space they are working in.
That’s what I meant. Especially in anything having to do with math.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to Pecker
I don't know if I would say it is completely nonsense. But I dont think it should just be completely forgotten about. I have seen many times where as a student we would have to do whatever quiz activity to determine our learning style, and then they would try to drill it in our heads about the facts related to that style. I never felt that was useful.
But on the other hand, i have learnee over the course of my life there are things that work for me, and things that dont. For example, in elementary school our teachers taught us jingles about everything. From the planets to history facts to geographical countries and even mathematical formulas. Id be damned if i don't remember alot of those same jingles to this day.
Also if Im reading something, it takes me reading it like 2-3 timea befor it actually clicks. In college I would feel so stupid as it would take me ridiculously long just to read the stupid chapters.
Also in college I had friends who would do the old school thing of recording their lectures. This way, either they did not come to class or they would come and fall asleep. That shite did NOT work for me. I had to take notes, go home and read those notes, and oftentimes go over those notes with a classmate, or the professsor himself.
You dont need to focus on the prescribed learning styles. But you do need to figure out what works best for you, as it wont be the same for everyone.
But on the other hand, i have learnee over the course of my life there are things that work for me, and things that dont. For example, in elementary school our teachers taught us jingles about everything. From the planets to history facts to geographical countries and even mathematical formulas. Id be damned if i don't remember alot of those same jingles to this day.
Also if Im reading something, it takes me reading it like 2-3 timea befor it actually clicks. In college I would feel so stupid as it would take me ridiculously long just to read the stupid chapters.
Also in college I had friends who would do the old school thing of recording their lectures. This way, either they did not come to class or they would come and fall asleep. That shite did NOT work for me. I had to take notes, go home and read those notes, and oftentimes go over those notes with a classmate, or the professsor himself.
You dont need to focus on the prescribed learning styles. But you do need to figure out what works best for you, as it wont be the same for everyone.
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