re: The Great Flood of 2016: Fill Out Disaster Forms NOW. Link Inside!

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Things will certainly change after this flood, just like they did after the flood in '83. Unlike with Katrina, though, most people will still have their job. The Hurricane shut people out for months, and many jobs just disappeared. There was little point in coming back for so many people.

The main employment drivers here still exist, and are operating today (unlike, say, the universities in New Orleans that had to furlough or lay off staff).

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Yeah, I agree that more people should be able to stay - although they may be in trailers for a while. It just depends on how long it takes commerce to start up. And, how fast the insurance companies/FEMA are able get the money flowing, and contractors able to work.

As I said in a couple of hundred pages ago, the "good news" is that the water is mostly gone or will be gone shortly in the LP... whereas it took a month to be gone in St Bernard. So, the less the water sits there, the better, and recovery can start sooner.

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ForkEmDemons

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Thank you for the update.

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The devastation in Livingston is going to rival St Bernard parish - which is amazing considering how many St Bernardians moved to Livingston

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3 times as many residents in livingston present day as st bernard pre katrina......

much worse... in human terms

The Spanish Lake Swamp/basin is 17,000 acres, about 1/4 of which is above (towards BR) Alligator Bayou/Manchac/ Bayou Paul road. That upper area took a lot of the water from Bayou Manchac until it began to fill. Once the level was high enough it began to flow over that road (which acted as a dam the past few days) and has been filling the other 3/4 of Spanish Lake Swamp. The issue is that the SLS doesnt have a "levee" on the iberville side below Manchac and so as it fills the water is pretty free to travel south and flood towards the river and plants nearby. Hwy 74 and 30 are the lower buffer to this area. This is why the NG is flying Chinooks continously dropping large sand bags on the road (Manchac/Paul/Alligator). The are trying to reduce the flow so it can filter out the other side (Iberville) without inundating the plants and houses in that direction. That would be even more catastrophic than the tragedy we have already seen.
All this completely speculation...but it connects a lot of dots in this event.

Goudine had been falling but it has leveled off. Shell informed me that it drains into New River. Haven't seen a New River gauge but I assume it is still rising.

The plants on the Mississippi are high enough, so flow from the swamp shouldn't affect them, especially now that the Amite is lower. 74 on the other hand is low, around 12'-13'.

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The are trying to reduce the flow so it can filter out the other side (Iberville) without inundating the plants and houses in that direction

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Thanks for the info
I understand it until you lost me here..
The Chinooks are sandbagging to divert flow where? (EBR, Sunshine,,??)

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3 times as many residents in livingston present day as st bernard pre katrina......

much worse... in human terms

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Yes... and with 75 percent having issues in Livingston vs 100 percent in St Bernard - many more people in Livingston are going to have issues. And... flood insurance participation rates are probably lower in Livingston.

The human toll is going to be horrific.

On the other hand, Livingston has more resources to start recovery, they will have more time as the water is pretty much gone, and we all have the lessons we learned in Katrina.

But the devastation in Livingston is nothing short of biblical-level.

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The head of the Red Cross just said on CNN that people were "Complacent." WTF, how do you plan for two freakin feet of rain in 48 hours???

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1) It doesn't help we get Flash Flood warnings every other day during the summer when a handful of roads may take on 2" of water, repetitiveness leads to some complacency.

2) Somehow, an internet message board initially intended for college football fans became BY FAR the best source of information on the flooding events. If you weren't using TigerDroppings you were easily 12 hours+ behind on getting information. This is especially true for anyone who was due to flood from Saturday on. People who get paid to do this for a living should be better at it than us!