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I can positively confirm Bayou Manchac is flowing towards the Amite river just west of I10 (east of Bayou Fountain and Alligator Bayou split). It aint moving fast but it has dropped behind CCLA by a foot or more since its highest point!
The rest of them likely washed out. At 2600-3000 lbs each stacked side by side, thats about 36-40,000 Lbs every 20ft or so. A lot of weight on a little asphalt road on top of soggy ground.
Were those in the middle of the road or at the edge? Could you tell how big of a section of road gave out?
No point in arguing about this now but if you do a bit of research you will find they have significantly more authority than just "major waterways".
Either way, my point was they are knowledgable of the systems of waterways and may have aided in getting valuable information out to the public. I have been involved in the dredging industry for many years, fwiw.
Not sure what you mean by "local drainage issues" we are not talking just about sewer and ditches here. These are major waterways and do come under their jurisdiction. Not trying to be an a$$.
I hope there wasn't one. That's so unfourtunate when people use terms like "breach" when they mean "overtopping". A breach is representative of a failure... why the news stations dont interview the ACOE is beyond me. Unless i missed the interviews. Those guys should know the topography and the waterways better than most and could provide some valuable insight.
The guage just past the Manchac/Alligator/Fountain split is still climbing though. Now at 12.05' up from 11.98' from an hour or so ago.
Just checked Bayou Manchac behind CCLA and is down a few inches from earlier today. The flowrate is still significant though. BF should drop if more water is flowing into Spanish Lake basin due to the breach. Dont know if that is good news or not from those on the otherside in Ascension and Iberville.
Not familiar with the neighborhoods...where is that related to Braud/Bluff/74?
Damn...hoping that wouldnt happen. Lets hope it is a "small" breach...and doesnt expand too rapidly.
Bayou Braud and Bayou Paul are the two largest (normally feeders) of that area. Otherwise any lowland with elevation below that area...if it fills up. I would watch those two for backflow and any indications of rising water from people along Ridge, 30, and 74. The SL swamp can hold a tremendous amount of water...17,000 acres even 4ft deep is significant.
My hood has been very quiet past 20-30 mins so i guess they are done dropping the sandbags. It has been constant all morning. Anyone know if they actually evacuated the women's prison? Going to check the flow at Manchac before BF and AB in a few minutes.
ACOE with NG i would think. ACOE would be the ones to make that call.
What elevation are the plants? I hope they are plenty high enough. I expect if they dont evacuate the prisons down there, that their plan worked considering it is within the Spanish Lake basin north and east of 74 and 30
Not sure about diverting so much as retaining. The more water that flows over the road the more erosion...i.e. likelihood of a "breach"...thats when all the water behind the road (EBR) side has a new place to go...and it would be very quick.
The Spanish Lake Swamp/basin is 17,000 acres, about 1/4 of which is above (towards BR) Alligator Bayou/Manchac/ Bayou Paul road. That upper area took a lot of the water from Bayou Manchac until it began to fill. Once the level was high enough it began to flow over that road (which acted as a dam the past few days) and has been filling the other 3/4 of Spanish Lake Swamp. The issue is that the SLS doesnt have a "levee" on the iberville side below Manchac and so as it fills the water is pretty free to travel south and flood towards the river and plants nearby. Hwy 74 and 30 are the lower buffer to this area. This is why the NG is flying Chinooks continously dropping large sand bags on the road (Manchac/Paul/Alligator). The are trying to reduce the flow so it can filter out the other side (Iberville) without inundating the plants and houses in that direction. That would be even more catastrophic than the tragedy we have already seen.
All this completely speculation...but it connects a lot of dots in this event.
I am watching the flow just past I10 behind CCLA before the guage at "Bluff swamp and kleinpeter" it has shown no signs of slowing.
At 5:30 Manchac was moving very quickly backflow towards Alligator Bayou and Bayou Fountain. Most of this water has been moving towards Alligator Bayou due to the lower level of Spanish Lake than up Bayou Fountain. Manchac has been rising slow but steadily all day and the volume moving through it is incredible. I dont know where all the water could possibly go but backflow out of Spanish Lake in AP and IP. The water flowing over Alligator Bayou Rd and Machac Bayou Rd is all thats kept significant backflow flooding from Bayou Fountain
Average age is probably 50/55..but the current membership drive has brought in a good group of 30 somethings. Quite a good deal IMO.
Im 37 and have been a member for 5 years. Lots of plans for near future improvement. Good time to join. We need more in this age range to help push the club to develop the areas that benefit others than just "old timers".