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re: The Dark Downside Of The Work-From-Home Trend
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:31 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:31 pm to WG_Dawg
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You mean the "moving far as hell away from your workplace" trend.
Yea but doesn’t that commute suck
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Most office people I know that are still working from home
Ah gotcha
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:31 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I don't know. What does the employee's living expenses have to do with the value they provide to the company?
I suppose that's only fair
quote:I wouldn't say that salaries are "based on" CoL so much as CoL is factored into the calculus as to whether an employee will take the job.
Those salaries are based on the local market and COL.
I mean a company can do what they want, but I think it's kind of a dick move and I believe they will find that the talent will go elsewhere. If lots of remote devs move to cheaper CoL areas, that should put a natural downward pressure on salaries. I think that forcing the issue by making employees self-report will turn out to be counter-productive.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:31 pm to Turbeauxdog
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They’ll quickly figure out they can pay people even less to work remotely..... from Mumbai.
It’s already being done for the most back office and mundane jobs
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:36 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:Yeah that's been happening for a long time. Effective communication is valuable to some companies, to others not so much.
After companies realize they can pay people lower to work remotely.
They’ll quickly figure out they can pay people even less to work remotely..... from Mumbai.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:37 pm to Turbeauxdog
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They’ll quickly figure out they can pay people even less to work remotely..... from Mumbai.
Meh, some will go this route, others who care about quality and data safety won’t.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:17 pm to fallguy_1978
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Those salaries are based on the local market and COL.
My company’will tell you with the quickness, We’re not paying you to work. We’re paying you to work HERE.
I think it’s foolish, but they sign the front of my check so...
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:25 pm to Paul Allen
quote:beat me, whip me, tie me up
severe ramifications for people who are not honest
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:32 pm to Paul Allen
The real darkside of work from home:
If you can do your job from home, Rajesh in Bangalore can do your job.
If you can do your job from home, Rajesh in Bangalore can do your job.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:44 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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If you can do your job from home, Rajesh in Bangalore can do your job.
This is so stupid
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:45 pm to Paul Allen
People talk about Teams Meetings and how great they are. They are great for internal meetings, short ones. For in depth meetings, meetings with clients, nothing will ever replace or come close to face to face.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:48 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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If you can do your job from home, Rajesh in Bangalore can do your job.
Could be short sided but Rajesh I have seen can work off a script only
Really anything we outsource could be RPA- bc only as good as script you give them
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:57 pm to jimbeam
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People talk about Teams Meetings and how great they are. They are great for internal meetings, short ones. For in depth meetings, meetings with clients, nothing will ever replace or come close to face to face.
Agreed
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:00 pm to Paul Allen
all the people on here talm bout "people are going to be able to WFM and live where ever they want" have another thing coming
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:04 pm to Yellerhammer5
quote:theres little to no talent in hattiesburg
Well then hire only developers from Hattiesburg and pay yourself the difference.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:08 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:Mutually exclusive concept.
to live comfortably in Seattle than Hattiesburg.
Living comfortably in Hattiesburg involves first moving away from Hattiesburg.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:12 pm to Paul Allen
This needs to be widespread corporate policy yesterday.
I’m tired of the massive influx of New Yorkers buying up property down here in Charleston in recent months because “it’s just so cheap.”
Just because you make $100,000 as a data entry clerk in NYC doesn’t mean you carry the same value down here.
I’m tired of the massive influx of New Yorkers buying up property down here in Charleston in recent months because “it’s just so cheap.”
Just because you make $100,000 as a data entry clerk in NYC doesn’t mean you carry the same value down here.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:14 pm to Paul Allen
From what I've seen with my wife's transition to WFH, the pay negotiation is basically negligible.
What's driving her crazy is the expectation that she is always available, especially since so many of the people she works with live on the West Coast. She is essentially expected to be tethered to her laptop from 8am-8pm. Her position in the company is bleeding employees because of it, but this increasingly seems to be the norm.
She talked to a recruiter today about work/life balance with another company and was told "Yeah, it's an issue, but if you log off at 7pm, no one will be upset."
What's driving her crazy is the expectation that she is always available, especially since so many of the people she works with live on the West Coast. She is essentially expected to be tethered to her laptop from 8am-8pm. Her position in the company is bleeding employees because of it, but this increasingly seems to be the norm.
She talked to a recruiter today about work/life balance with another company and was told "Yeah, it's an issue, but if you log off at 7pm, no one will be upset."
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:17 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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theres little to no talent in hattiesburg
I've been assured by technocrats and politicians that we can retrain truck drivers to write code and this will usher in a wave of new tech jobs across the Rust Belt and Appalachia.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:21 pm to Korkstand
quote:A nurse in NYC is going to make considerably more than a nurse in some podunk town in Arkansas. How is this any different?
What does the employee's living expenses have to do with the value they provide to the company?
People are paid based on the market/cost of living in their region in I'm sure every profession, this is nothing new.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:23 pm to Korkstand
I agree, your paid based on the value you bring to the company. Lowering your salary because of where you live if they allow you to work remotely is ridiculous.
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