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lostinbr
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re: The Dark Downside Of The Work-From-Home Trend
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That's an easier pill to swallow than being asked to report how much my house cost so they can justify paying me less. And if I lie there will be "severe ramifications".

Nobody is asking people how much their house costs. All they are asking for is an accurate address. The “severe ramifications” mentioned by Zuckerberg are for people who lie about where they are living.


Korkstand
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Nobody is asking people how much their house costs. All they are asking for is an accurate address.
Tomato tomato.
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The “severe ramifications” mentioned by Zuckerberg are for people who lie about where they are living.
I don't care what the reason is, if I'm not doing anything illegal then I won't take too kindly to anyone threatening "severe ramifications" for anything.

Just tell me that due to changes in the market and hiring opportunities, you want to pay me less or let me go. Either I take the pay cut or I don't. Threats from ownership or management about "ramifications" reek of entitlement and desperation.


MarinaTigerEsq
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I know a guy who just took a 20% cut to leave Los Angeles and go to North Carolina. His family will still have a better quality of life.


Paul Allen
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His family will still have a better quality of life.



Debatable


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lostinbr
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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re: The Dark Downside Of The Work-From-Home Trend
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Tomato tomato.

Not really. One is a massive invasion of privacy. The other is basic administrative record-keeping.
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I don't care what the reason is, if I'm not doing anything illegal then I won't take too kindly to anyone threatening "severe ramifications" for anything.

Pretending you live close enough to your office to go in if requested is, at best, dishonest. At worst, it’s fraud. Different locations have different tax rates, different labor laws, different UI requirements, etc.

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. I will say that I can agree with your stance for employees/positions that were already remote prior to COVID.


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LSUFanHouston
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There is little discussion around the dark side to this trend. For instance, VMware—a California-based publicly traded software company that provides cloud computing and virtualization software and services— announced that employees who work remotely will get a pay cut if they move out of Silicon Valley to live in less-costly cities. 


This will happen in industries where there is a glut of qualified workers. If a company does this in an industry with a tight market, they will soon find themselves with an exodus. Which will require them to raise salaries to bring in people.

Ernst and Young was trying to open up basically a "secretaries office" for admin assistants. The office would be located in NOLA but all the people there would work for execs in other cities. They were doing this because it was cheaper to hire admin assistants in NOLA than in say, NYC, and with tech, it didn't matter that a firm exec, located in NYC, had an admin assistant who was in NOLA.

I don't know if they ever went through with this plan. But this was pre-COVID.


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LSUFanHouston
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Random work from home scenario:

If you get hurt at home while working remotely, are you eligible for a Worker’s Comp claim?




I'll go one better. You are working from home. A robber breaks into your house. You shoot him. He doesn't die.

His attorney finds out you were working from home at the time. He sues your employer. What then?


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LSUFanHouston
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There a billion Indians, you don't think some of them are as qualified as the average American?


I know several CPA firms that outsource some basic work to India. I've seen some of their work. For extremely basic stuff, it's fine. For things with any complication in them, it's horrible.

I know engineering is the same way. I have a family member that just completed a large engineering projects where a lot of the work was done in India. 95% percent of it had to be redone by a US based engineer.


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MusclesofBrussels
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Let’s say that the company is leasing a large six-story office building in a high rent area like Silicon Valley. If they have everyone go remote, they can vacate that space at the end of their lease


Very few, if any, large companies are going to go fully remote. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, etc all currently have anticipated back to the office dates. People are significantly overstating the long term remote work situation.


MusclesofBrussels
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In other words, as an employee I would rather be told that, due to an increase in remote work, I will naturally be competing against a larger labor market. That's an easier pill to swallow than being asked to report how much my house cost so they can justify paying me less. And if I lie there will be "severe ramifications".


You keep framing Zuckerberg's statements to imply that they only need to know where employees are living to try to cut salaries. There are significant tax and regulatory issues that remote employees open up for companies, pay isn't the only component.


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wareaglepete
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Very few, if any, large companies are going to go fully remote. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, etc all currently have anticipated back to the office dates


We’ll see. Bottom line always wins. If they bring people back into the office, it only means they weren’t efficient working remote.
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MSUDawg98
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Several predictions call for business travel and in-person meetings to lag behind for several years some even going as far a decade


Airlines and certain cities are going to have to rely on trade show attendance a lot more. Vegas is going to get killed if trade shows start getting canceled. Today we got an email about hotel refund policies in case the SHOT Show was canceled. Keep in mind this is a show which takes place in 3 different buildings and has events all over Southern Nevada. Their policies include everyone having to sign Kung Flu waivers, temperature checks, having 180,000 masks available, sanitizer all over, one way aisles, and reduced capacity in the press room (gonna suck because the breakfast buffet in there was the tits.)


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