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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)

Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:25 pm to
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But since the random unknown card in the game of chance that was flipped over meant the person that made the stupid bet won, cheating is the only possible explanation

Cheating or poor play
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:26 pm to
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RFID readers know this?????? You gotta mean only post played cards, not pre-played cards correct?


No, From my understanding, there are RFID readers that you can purchase that will tell you what seat will win the hand before the cards are dealt.




I don't know how the tech is used in poker, but does an RFID reader (which is a bit of a misnomer, because the RFID part has nothing to do with the reader) know the post-shuffled, pre-dealt order of cards in the deck?

ETA: I have since educated myself and the cards themselves are embedded with an RFID chip and the table has strategically placed sensors for reading them.

It is insane to me this is allowed.

/meauxjeaux'seducation


THAT SAID, I still don't see who the RFID would allow her to know what the next cards were in sequence in the dealers hand.

It WOULD let her know what cards were still in the dealers hand, but sequencing, no.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10369 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:27 pm to
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She is in an open casino. With Her BF at the table. And hundreds of people. She wasn’t intimidated. She and her bf we afraid of the upcoming investigation.

She was pulled to a side room by the big name pro throwing a bitch fit because he lost to a dumb call on a lucky draw after bluffing himself, and the owner of the casino was involved in the meeting.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:30 pm to
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You've said lots of dumb stuff repeatedly. Doesn't mean it isn't dumb the 6th time you say it.

You’re in this thread knighting for a professional bitch that handled this situation in the literal exact opposite way you said you would have.

Think about how stupid that makes you for a few minutes.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:30 pm to
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So was she ahead when he had that many outs? And why did she agree to give him another shot at it with the extra river card?

If the only information she had was that she was ahead, she may have done what she did.

Here’s my take: if she was cheated she didn’t know exactly how she stood. So she called only knowing she had the best hand at the time.

Or she thought the guy was on a draw, and money was no object so she called.

It wasn’t a good play in any situation, but she made it,
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:59 pm to
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You’re in this thread knighting


I haven't done any such thing. I have no side here, I don't know for sure what happened. The only thing I know for sure is you are a moron. That is undisputed.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:15 pm to
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She bluffed and he fell for it.
nope.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:19 pm to
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No, From my understanding, there are RFID readers that you can purchase that will tell you what seat will win the hand before the cards are dealt.


That would have to assume that there were no weird plays. Basically all professionals playing perfectly.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:28 pm to
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That would have to assume that there were no weird plays. Basically all professionals playing perfectly.


There’s no such thing as playing perfect.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:31 pm to
Sure there is. Do the opposite of what I do and you'll win every time.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41824 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Sure there is. Do the opposite of what I do and you'll win every time.


I feel your pain
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23745 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:54 pm to
Don't know if it's been brought up in the 20 pages here, and i apologize if its already been discussed, but she is dating the player in the cowboy hat (they call him Rip. He's affiliated with Jake Paul somehow) and the scuttlebutt is that he is staking her and they were in on it together. They definitely had an odd exchange right before the game runners took her and the Garrett guy aside. Very weird.

Now I don't know if she is cheating, but I always thought that it was a huge no no, or big breach of etiquette at the very least, to have a player bankrolling another player at the same table. It just opens up the opportunity for collusion at minimum.

I will add that her story has changed multiple times in her explanations of what went down, so that leads me to believe that everything isn't quite on the up and up.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:55 pm to
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That would have to assume that there were no weird plays. Basically all professionals playing perfectly


RFID is radio frequency identification. It’s like a bar code on the cards. It’s what helps us see the players hands on live streams. Apparently, there is a reader that can tell you based on the information provided, who will win the hand. So, knowing Garrett and Robbie are the only 2 left in the pot, it could determine Robbie will win the hand. I’m not sure on how it does that, I’ve just heard multiple people in the know say that’s a possibility.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Now I don't know if she is cheating, but I always thought that it was a huge no no, or big breach of etiquette at the very least, to have a player bankrolling another player at the same table. It just opens up the opportunity for collusion at minimum.


General rule is it's ok as long as everyone knows about it. Hiding it is the no-no.
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:00 pm to
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Don't know if it's been brought up in the 20 pages here, and i apologize if its already been discussed, but she is dating the player in the cowboy hat (they call him Rip. He's affiliated with Jake Paul somehow) and the scuttlebutt is that he is staking her and they were in on it together. They definitely had an odd exchange right before the game runners took her and the Garrett guy aside. Very weird. Now I don't know if she is cheating, but I always thought that it was a huge no no, or big breach of etiquette at the very least, to have a player bankrolling another player at the same table. It just opens up the opportunity for collusion at minimum.


I’m not sure about the dating part, because she apparently has a husband, but the rest has been confirmed by her.

It’s not against etiquette if you disclose the information to the table. A lot of poker player swap with each other in tournaments and they’ll tell the table “I have 5% of so and so’s action”

There’s an AQ vs AQ hand on an AAx board where Robbie and Rip soft played each other. That one isn’t even a debate.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19196 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:07 pm to
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She wins that hand 55% of the time (without factoring in the dead cards)


So poker genius bet $100k to win a $60k pot with the worst hand and 1 card to go on a draw? Then bitches and whines when he doesn’t hit his draw even when given two chances….because a woman didn’t do what she was supposed to do playing poker?

Sounds like a lot of bad decisions were made in that hand.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36457 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:15 pm to
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I think she either forgot or misread her hole cards - which happens - and then was embarrassed to cop to making a mistake in front of everyone.

This is what I think, too. I think they made her feel bad for making a shitty play, and she is embarrassed, so she’d rather have cheating allegations than look like a fricking idiot.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1647 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:16 pm to
No. It’s not “ok”. Anyone thinking it is ok is incredibly naive, or good friends with the couple. A lot of times it’s permitted because one of the players is so bad, they wouldn’t have a clue as to how to capital. The casinos allow it because it doesn’t affect them one way or the other. Their only concern is the rake.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30239 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:28 pm to
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she's obviously not a good player but it's not that big of a deal?


I’m guessing that was billed to him as a cash game table full of pros……I could see how it would be off putting for him.

Now if he were playing at the poker room in Lake Charles he probably would expect it .
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:47 pm to
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No. It’s not “ok”. Anyone thinking it is ok is incredibly naive, or good friends with the couple.


It's ok if the other players are ok with it. These high stakes cash games are usually a bunch of pros who are friends or at least friendly.
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