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re: The average interest rate on a 30-year mortgage rises to 7.62%, the highest since 2000

Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by OSqueal
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:27 pm to
Same here...locked in 2.5. I'm going to freaking die here.
Posted by madamsquirrel
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Member since Jul 2009
54875 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:28 pm to
I was thinking stimulus checks not PPP money so I will

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Shut the frick up, you have no idea how economics works.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Yet prices still arent dropping Realtors are assholes


10/10. Well done
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:50 pm to
Prices will never return down. New normal. Too many at the “new” values.

Multifamily living booming.

People aren’t moving so only supply is really new homes built.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Going to get worse



Needs to get worse. First time homebuying qualifications need dramatic increase in standards
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Needs to get worse. First time homebuying qualifications need dramatic increase in standards


What?!
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Yet prices still arent dropping

Realtors are assholes


I see at least one person doesn’t understand supply and demand.
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2562 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:18 pm to
Glad I built when I did. I told a lot of people on the Home board to stop waiting for lumber to go down. I got a lot of downvotes. Now they can't build at all. I'm at 2.8 and I'm never leaving.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:20 pm to
I give you shite sometimes but I actually enjoy these threads

Useful information
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:23 pm to
When I bought my first house in 1998, pretty sure the interest rate was around 7%...I don't recall complaining about it at the time...
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:26 pm to
There's a house that came up for sale in a neighborhood I've been wanting to move to for a few years but man we refinanced at 2.5% and a 15 year note. Hard to let go of that.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:28 pm to
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When I bought my first house in 1998, pretty sure the interest rate was around 7%...I don't recall complaining about it at the time...



What was the sales price?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:28 pm to
The average student loan debt in 1998 was around $14,000 and the average home price was around $150,000. Now? Average student loan debt is much higher and the average US home is almost $450,000. It's a much different ballgame now.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Biden extended all of that longer than it needed to be extended, but it all started during Trump's tenure.


This was huge and not in a good way.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:35 pm to
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When I bought my first house in 1998, pretty sure the interest rate was around 7%...I don't recall complaining about it at the time...
No one would complain if the average home price today was what it was in 1998.

It was about 50% of what it is now, if Scruffy is reading the data right.

Looks like home prices increased 74% from 2010 to 2022.

Give me the prices you paid and I’ll be happy with my 7%.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Sure, but even kids who are making the right decisions are still in a shite situation. I bought my house 6 years ago. If I was 6 years younger, looking to buy the same house that I'm in now and had made all of the same life choices that I made back then (no student loans, good degrees, etc...), I would be stuck looking at a mortgage that is $1450 more than I currently pay.


I agree it's a tougher time than when I bought my house; rent is eating up a lot of income that could be saved. I think it is still doable, but priorities vary from person to person. I just disagree with the notion that new grads should be able to buy a house. That's not realistic.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:40 pm to
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Looks like home prices increased 74% from 2010 to 2022.
how much have wages increased from 1998 to now?
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:40 pm to
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When I bought my first house in 1998, pretty sure the interest rate was around 7%...I don't recall complaining about it at the time...



What was the price per square foot?

How far did your dollar go?

So much more to consider rather than "I bought a house 30 years ago at similar rates, what's the matter"
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:42 pm to
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how much have wages increased from 1998 to now?




Average home price has far outpaced wage growth since then

I posted this earlier but in case you missed it this will help put it into perspective


Per Black Knight: It would take some combination of up to a 28% decline in home prices, a more than 4% reduction in 30-year mortgage rates, or up to a 60% growth in median household incomes to bring home affordability back to its 25-year average.


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
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how much have wages increased from 1998 to now?



Way tf less than housing prices

The respective increases are not even remotely close.
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