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re: The appeal of non denominational churches
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:47 am to L5ut1g3r
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:47 am to L5ut1g3r
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I know a lot of people who attend these churches and while most are really good people, they usually use the excuse that these churches are more loose with their teachings and more flexible than other organized religions.
i go to a non-denominational Bible church and the opposite of this is why i go.
very orthodox conservative views of the scripture with a strong reformed bent. they can get a little social justicy on race issues, but it's never been divisive. every time somebody gets liberal or wants to change our church's views or bylaws they are very quickly shown the door.
We had an elder (i knew him and wouldn't have thought he had these views beforehand) come on and try to get a change in our statement of sexuality and women in leadership in the church and he was quickly shown the door.
I also like the flexibility of the fact that if my church hadn't taken the strong stance there, I'm free to leave it if it came to that.
While I'm not Catholic, I grew up in a Catholic community and appreciate the norms there. I'd sooner go to a local parish than any of the mega churches you accurately describe. That being said, I think the previous Pope was pretty bonkers on a lot of issues. I'm stuck with him as my church head no matter where i go.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:49 am to L5ut1g3r
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Everyone is quick to bash the Catholic Church
Probably because of the "Holier than thou" attitude and how quick to judge those people are.
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they usually use the excuse that these churches
The way you used the word "excuse" to describe someone who worships different than you proves my point exactly. You are just so much better than them.
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To me this defeats the purpose of religion
Praying, rejoicing, and worshipping God defeats the purpose of Religion because you don't like the way they do it?
Matthew 7:1 states, "Judge not, that ye be not judged."
So you are judging and devaluing peoples faith who you admitted are "really good people" because they aren't like you?
What a shitty but typical Catholic take.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:49 am to JiminyCricket
Most are motivational speeches and a concert. Biggest one here in Bham area doesn't even have a cross in the "church".
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:52 am to SixthAndBarone
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“I’m part of something”
Isn't this 90% the purpose of organized religion?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:53 am to L5ut1g3r
Having been raised catholic (including catholic schooling for half my life) and now a member of a non-denominational church I’d say it was simple for me. Where do I feel more connected spiritually? It’s the latter for me, by far.
We can point fingers at every denomination, church, or pastor/priest and at the end of the day we are all imperfect and unworthy except through His grace.
It is weird to me that you view a specific denomination as “the most viable”. Because it’s not in a strip mall? Because it’s just the RIGHT square footage? Mmmmk
We can point fingers at every denomination, church, or pastor/priest and at the end of the day we are all imperfect and unworthy except through His grace.
It is weird to me that you view a specific denomination as “the most viable”. Because it’s not in a strip mall? Because it’s just the RIGHT square footage? Mmmmk
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:53 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Ah, a good “my religion is better than yours” thread. Where the enlightened and redeemed throw stones at others for worshipping different
We're in agreement on this one.
Always a shitshow.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:54 am to L5ut1g3r
If all non denominational churches are lumped into being non denom, doesn't that actually just make them a denomination?
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Non-denominational churches can vary widely in their size, style, and approach to worship. However, they share some common characteristics and beliefs.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:54 am to L5ut1g3r
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Everyone is quick to bash the Catholic Church (believe me they deserve it most times) but it is still the most viable option out there.
Christianity is not a religion.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:55 am to TSS4LSU
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Biggest one here in Bham area doesn't even have a cross in the "church".
probably so as not to offend not so orthodox Jews, they're welcome too
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:55 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Ok, Joel
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:56 am to Chad504boy
what about the ones that want you to fund their mission trip to some exotic locale so they can spread the message of jesus thru facebook or go fund me
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:56 am to Gings5
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Non denom are pretty much Baptist.
I think they're often a version of Pentecostalism, too
This YT channel is a good listen with this great video
There's a local church I just discovered and I was trying to use their language to identify the real demonization behind the "non-denomination"
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:58 am to L5ut1g3r
quote:rock bands, awkward youth leaders with spiked hair. Pastors wearing skinny bedazzled jeans to preach, etc….. list goes on and on like a three hour Wednesday ought praise service!!!
The appeal of non denominational churches
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Is your post satire?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:00 pm to Gings5
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Is your post satire?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:00 pm to L5ut1g3r
The ND churches avoid sin by saying nothing is a sin.
It’s feel good juice until they hit the narrow road and learn that sin really exists and heaven isn’t for everyone.
It’s feel good juice until they hit the narrow road and learn that sin really exists and heaven isn’t for everyone.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:01 pm to L5ut1g3r
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I don’t understand the rationale behind non denominational churches. Everyone is quick to bash the Catholic Church (believe me they deserve it most times) but it is still the most viable option out there. I don’t get going to church in a strip mall or the opposite, a billion square foot mega church. I know a lot of people who attend these churches and while most are really good people, they usually use the excuse that these churches are more loose with their teachings and more flexible than other organized religions. To me this defeats the purpose of religion. Also, these churches are certainly not scandal free, seems they are all flawed just as must as the Catholic Church.
You don't come across as someone that understands theology.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:01 pm to red sox fan 13
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If you ask me there should be a certain reverence and seriousness around church/worship that is present in Catholic, Orthodox, and old school Protestant buildings and ceremonies that just isn’t there with non-denoms/megachurches. But people can do what they want, just not my cup of tea.
I think this has some to do with it. I can go to a non-denominational church and enjoy/participate in the entire thing.
If I go to Mass, its much more serious. I don't know when I'm supposed to be kneeling and getting up until everyone else does and sometimes I do the wrong thing with the knee rest thing and feel dumb, and I feel weird when I have to sit out for communion while 98% of the people around me are getting up.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:02 pm to AUCE05
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I guess they choose they one less corrupt than the Catholics
Not so sure about that at all...I'm protestant and grew up going to what one would call a "mega church" that also founded a k-12 school. The pastor lived in a nice 10,000+ sq ft home...drove a very nice German vehicle...it was believed by many that an associate pastor there had hooked up with a high schooler...
Catholics get a lot of bad wrap, but the Protestants are no different. I've read reports that there is more sexual abuse (ignoring money swindling) in Protestant churches than Catholic churches. That makes sense as I guess there are twice as many Protestants in the US as opposed to Catholics. 5 years ago or so, the Southern Baptist Convention was investigated by the Houston Chronicle which reported that hundreds of Southern Baptist clergy and staff had been accused of sexual misconduct over the past 20 years, including dozens who returned to church duties, while leaving more than 700 victims with little in the way of justice or apologies. The Anglican Church very recently...in 2025...in facing tons of scrutiny of abuse by its Reverends, Bishops or whatever they are called.
Point being, abuse unfortunately happens everywhere...schools, churches, sporting leagues, Boy Scouts. I do think the Catholic church receives more press and publicity because...well...frankly, it's more intriguing than that of the Protestant churches.
I'm serious. There's a mystery to the Catholic church that's intriguing to all...religious and non-religious ... As an analogy, there's a reason why these demon movies have Catholic priests and not "Brother Randy" from "New Life Christian Church." It's more intriguing and attention grabbing... the consumer is more interested in seeing "Father Nicolas" from "St. Benedict's Church" dressed in a Roman Catholic collar and cassock casting out demons by sprinkling them with holy water as opposed "Pastor Ethan and Elder Brant" from "Gateway Church" dressed in designer jeans and Chacos sprinkling the demons with granola and single origin coffee. It's more intriguing and attention grabbing to all.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:03 pm to red sox fan 13
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If you ask me there should be a certain reverence and seriousness around church/worship that is present in Catholic, Orthodox, and old school Protestant buildings
I have been to countless churches and "Denominations" and I agree 100%
I always described it in terms of being fake. If your faith requires the energy of music and entertainment to jump-start it, perhaps it isn't as sincere as you feel in the moment of that Monster Energy equivalent?
Pensive, solemn reflection and self-analysis is much more of a sincere expression of faith, to me.
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