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Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:05 pm to SPEEDY
I dont understand why we don’t use prison population, especially non-violent/white collar offenders, for menial labor like trash pick-up damn near 7 days a week.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:06 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Because not enough of them want to do the job.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:09 pm to SPEEDY
If prisoners can't work, then they shouldn't have any kind of cable or satellite TV, or internet access.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:11 pm to JimmyMcGoo
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Not when they get free room and board.
Right. Pay them living wage and then charge for rent and food.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:18 pm to MikeD
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Right. Pay them living wage and then charge for rent and food.
What percentage should the 401k match be?
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:18 pm to JimmyMcGoo
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I would support minimum wage.
Not when they get free room and board.
I worked at a minimum security facility once that required all inmates to have some type of job, whether on grounds or off grounds. The off-grounds work would pay pretty well; I seem to remember one job paid about $15/hr. The catch was that they had to pay 1/4 of their wages back for housing/meals; 1/4 towards any restitution that was owed; 1/4 towards a bank account which they couldn't touch while incarcerated; and 1/4 towards a commissary account. I thought it worked out pretty well.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:25 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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dont understand why we don’t use prison population, especially non-violent/white collar offenders, for menial labor like trash pick-up damn near 7 days a week.
“For a brief, fleeting moment, I'd forgotten I was rich and lived in America.”
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:30 pm to SPEEDY
Call it the Edmond Jordan rule and remove all trusty work and work time out of the yard. Classic SJW.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:32 pm to Cosmo
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I thought prisoners liked to get out of the pen to do trustee work
Trust me, they do! Rapides Parish has a system where the allow non violent offenders work on work crews picking up litter, raking parks, weed eating draining ditches, etc in exchange for better conditions such better food, menial privileges like going outside and smoking cigarettes (that the inmates pay for). The inmates try to get in that program because of the benefits. It beats just warehousing able bodied men for months at a time with nothing to do. It’s win-win and I have no idea why EBRP doesn’t replicate it. When Alexandria is beating you at something, you really need to take a look at your what your doing.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:36 pm to SPEEDY
Figured this was already a thing with all the trash on the side of the road
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:02 pm to Cosmo
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I thought prisoners liked to get out of the pen to do trustee work?
I was on the Grand Jury at the county level a few years ago. One thing Alabama's Grand Jury has to do is tour the jail and give a report on its condition. It is mostly a bullshite dog and pony show because the Sheriff knows when the tour will be and they spend a couple weeks getting everything in order. That said, on our tour both the Sheriff and the DA mentioned that getting inmates to work, even for time off their sentences, is getting harder. They said involvement in work programs, work release included, has dropped year-over-year for several years now. They have jobs available, but no inmates want to work.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:19 pm to Cosmo
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I thought prisoners liked to get out of the pen to do trustee work?
younger ones 2 lazy
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:27 pm to SPEEDY
Lending trustee labor out to private businesses is a super corrupt system that must be abolished.
Using prisoners to pick up trash and maintain public works is something they should be doing. They’re not innocents, they’re f$&king convicted felons repaying their debts to society. If they didn’t do something bad enough to be worth making them pick up trash as punishment, then what they did probably shouldn’t be punishable by prison time regardless.
Using prisoners to pick up trash and maintain public works is something they should be doing. They’re not innocents, they’re f$&king convicted felons repaying their debts to society. If they didn’t do something bad enough to be worth making them pick up trash as punishment, then what they did probably shouldn’t be punishable by prison time regardless.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:30 pm to SPEEDY
I’m convinced Will Sutton is special needs.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:30 pm to MoarKilometers
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I think we've seen enough instances where these private prisons have incentived judges sending people to prison when that's not what scoresheets say.
Just to be clear, your position is "yes the government makes the laws and yes the government passes the sentence, sending people to jail.... Yet Still private industies fault and not the government"
Did I get that right?
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:36 pm to SPEEDY
If I were in prison for a long stretch, and stuck in a cell 14+ hours a day, I'd probably give blowjobs to double my outside time regardless of what I was doing, wouldn't have to pay me shite.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:36 pm to SPEEDY
These dumb fricks need to read the 13th Amendment
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:39 pm to beerJeep
The private industry contributes heavily to elect judges and DA’s who then rule on cases that decide how much money the private industry gets which they can kickback to the judges and DA’s. So, yeah, it’s the government’s fault AND private industry’s fault because the government is spinning off one of its key responsibilities to private industry and paying them per inmate. Maybe, this would stop if they didn’t pay the private prisons on a per inmate basis.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:39 pm to SPEEDY
Edmond has been watching way too much TV
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