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re: Texas child arrested for building a clock and bringing to school

Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:04 am to
I don't understand why he was arrested. If you're paranoid about it, confiscate it and get someone to check it out
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54881 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:05 am to
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Yall are saying these things because a government official had the reaction.
No, I'm saying these things because the reaction was way over the top and likely the result of ignorance and bigotry.

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If a Muslim kid walked into your party with a device that looked like a bomb, I doubt you'd be so understanding.
And if the ethnicity really wouldn't matter to you, then you're not using your brain.
So you think I would try to have a Muslim kid arrested for bringing what I knew and/or learned to be a clock because he was Muslim?

Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:05 am to
Same thing happened to me when I was accused by an "anonymous tipster" of something I didn't do. Arrested at school and spent all day being interrogated, harassed, bullied, and threatened by the police. They eventually figured out that it was complete BS, but the experience showed me what cops are REALLY like. I'll never forget that, and never will trust the police again. I feel for this kid because I know exactly what that's like and I wish I could buy him a beer.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:05 am to
Here's a picture of the clock. I don't think it was working properly.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:05 am to
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I don't understand why he was arrested. If you're paranoid about it, confiscate it and get someone to check it out



Exactly.

Principal's office, experts examine device, call parents. End of story.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:09 am to
Are we 100% sure this kid didn't get the exact reaction he was expecting. I've become suspicious of everything these days.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82756 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:09 am to
Why are your jimmies so rustled over this? Are you Muslim?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:11 am to
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The kid probably knew exactly what he was doing and did it to play this faux-victim shite on everyone. Kind of like a few years back when the Muslim guys kept changing seats and asking for seat belt extensions on a plane. "I'm behaving suspiciously like those guys that committed acts of terrorism...how dare anyone profile me as a suspicious person that might be about to commit an act of terrorism!"


At the very least they shouldn't be making a big deal as if they just can't possibly understand why this would happen to little Ahmed.

I agree the zero-tolerance "let's arrest kids for relatively benign stuff" policies are insane, but that isn't why this is a national story. It's a big story because he is a Muslim, and America takes every chance it gets to prove that it's above profiling.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:12 am to
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Why are your jimmies so rustled over this? Are you Muslim?



I'm white, French Catholic from South Louisiana

This is more of a "I hate 90% of cops" thread than a "I feel bad for Muslims" thread.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54881 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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America takes every chance it gets to prove that it's above profiling.
clearly
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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So you think I would try to have a Muslim kid arrested for bringing what I knew and/or learned to be a clock because he was Muslim?



No, but you would surely ascertain the nature of the device. And probably tell him it was a bad idea to not warn people that he was bringing a bomb-looking device.
The arrest is part of a stupid policy that automatically kicked in once officials believed he might have brought a bomb-like device to school.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3864 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:17 am to
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Sounds like a bright, creative kid with a passion for robotics and he wanted to show his engineering teacher something he built.



Agreed. In hindsight, the engineering teacher should have made him leave the clock in the teacher's classroom until the end of the day, knowing that other teachers seeing it could lead to something like this.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:17 am to
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This is more of a "I hate 90% of cops" thread than a "I feel bad for Muslims" thread.


This.

I'm a white, upper middle class male from Texas with zero criminal record.

Unless you've experienced being interrogated, berated, and threatened all day by a pack of cops - as a kid who thought he was just having a regular day at school - then you really don't have any room to speak because you don't know what it's like.

I do.

I'm telling you - it's messed up to do and will turn you against the police.

The right thing to do would be to inspect the object to see if it's really a bomb, and if it isn't, to call the kids parents and tell them "yo, this freaks people out, tell him to knock it off". That's it. No big deal. It's totally unnecessary to arrest the kid and hand him over to a pack of bloodthirsty hyaenas (what cops are, in case you haven't experienced it).
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82756 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:17 am to
Call me naive, but my mind didn't jump to "holy shite look at mini-osama getting arrested, NEVER FORGET"

The first thought that popped in my head was precaution from incidents like Columbine and Sandy Hook...and I'm willing to bet that was the underlying motive behind the school and police reactions. The fact he is Muslim is a coincidence and secondary.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54881 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:18 am to
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but you would surely ascertain the nature of the device.
Which, if the story is accurate, was done well before any police involvement. They didn't evacuate the school. The teacher kept the clock and the kid was arrested later in the day.

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The arrest is part of a stupid policy that automatically kicked in once officials believed he might have brought a bomb-like device to school.
Maybe my quick look at the story is off, but I got the impression that the teachers essentially knew from the start it was just a clock.

Kid may have been messing around or trying to make a political statement about profiling, which is dumb, but not arrest worthy if the teachers knew the device was a clock.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:22 am to
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His parents must be geniuses. If I were Muslim and had a son named Ahmed I would hope that I would forbid him to take a homemade clock to school.



So, because of his name, he shouldn't have tech hobbies and be proud of them?

This is what the terrorists want you sheep.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:24 am to
His robotics teacher (didn't know that was a thing in hs, cool) knew what it was and knew exactly what would happen if the derps found out.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32403 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:27 am to
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:27 am to
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They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”




I love how most cops are the same everywhere you go.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19366 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:29 am to
I hope that kids family sues the living hell out of the police department and the school
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