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re: Teens becoming "straighter", females seeing sharp decline in bisexuality

Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:50 pm to
Draw linear regression line(s) on that data and get back to us...
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 4:51 pm
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:58 pm to
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Thinking you are edgy and unique by being bi no longer works if everyone is



That's part of it. It was perceived as an advantage in college admissions and hiring to claim a special sexual identity. But maybe it stopped being "special," and thus no longer as much of an advantage.

I think a lot of cynical assholes were just picking "other" or "pan-sexual" and "they/them" because they thought it could make them untouchable.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
72309 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:11 pm to
This is because we brought fig and "that's gay" back.

Mild bullying is saving gen alpha from the gen Z mind virus.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 5:12 pm
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2693 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:26 pm to
What's this we shite?

OT'ers didn't look like that.

More like this:

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:29 pm to
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I think it's just natural ebbs and flows of society.


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:32 pm to
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I think it's just natural ebbs and flows of society.
We would need to see that same “ebb and flow” over the history of our society for you to say that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:35 pm to
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We would need to see that same “ebb and flow” over the history of our society for you to say that.


I posted evidence of just that from the faggy, androgynous 80s to the grungy, dirty 90s
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:39 pm to
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I posted evidence of just that from the faggy, androgynous 80s to the grungy, dirty 90s
That isn’t evidence of an ebb and flow of “sexuality”.

That is horrendous fashion and celebrity culture.

I know you are better than that, SFP.

The chart in the OP counters your argument any way.

If it was just a natural “ebb and flow” of society, the numbers would remain relatively the same.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:41 pm to
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That isn’t evidence of an ebb and flow of “sexuality”.


The sexuality did not really shift. It just became fashionable to label yourself that way

Now it's no longer cool or unique to label yourself that way, so things are shifting back
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 5:42 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:42 pm to
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I know you are better than that, SFP.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78641 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:44 pm to
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The sexuality did not really shift. It just became fashionable to label yourself that way
Then it isn’t the natural ebbs and flows of society, counselor.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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78641 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:44 pm to
Yea, his response makes me question that statement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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488034 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:46 pm to
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Then it isn’t the natural ebbs and flows of society, counselor.


People following trends and then changing their mind isn't part of the natural ebb and flow of society?

I think you're attaching a legitimacy to the actual sexuality that never existed. If you look at the chart, it speaks of identification only. That doesn't mean that there was a sincere belief in that sexuality and the shift back furthers this argument.

It was really cool to label yourself bi for a period, the same as it was cool to have frosted tips or wear JNCOs, and with all those trends it became uncool at a certain time and people stopped and went in a different direction. The ebb and flow of culture
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:01 pm to
Won't this be evidence for the "this just goes to show sexuality is fluid" crowd?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
77068 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:08 pm to
if “bisexual” could become fashionable and then disappear like frosted tips and JNCOs, why were we endlessly told these labels were deeply authentic, innate, and immutable?

conceded the point while trying desperately to argue against it. :shakes head in disbelief:
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:10 pm to
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if “bisexual” could become fashionable and then disappear like frosted tips and JNCOs, why were we endlessly told these labels were deeply authentic, innate, and immutable?

You're talking about two very separate things here.

I was only addressing one

I completely understand what you're trying to shift it to the other one though. My comments have no applicability to that attempted pivot

quote:

conceded the point

Wut
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4237 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:11 pm to
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females seeing sharp decline in bisexuality



Even females dont want to deal with females.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Member since Jan 2008
77068 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:13 pm to
The OP blamed USAID, and your first response dismissed that causal explanation as “natural ebbs and flows.” You then agreed it was a social contagion and claimed the culture made identifying as bisexual fashionable.

Asking whether institutional and media promotion helped make it fashionable is directly applicable to the original argument.

So did those external influences help create the trend, or did it all spontaneously appear like frosted tips?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
488034 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:15 pm to
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The OP blamed USAID, and your first response dismissed that causal explanation as “natural ebbs and flows.”


Yes

quote:

You then agreed it was a social contagion and claimed the culture made identifying as bisexual fashionable.

Yes

quote:

Asking whether institutional and media promotion helped make it fashionable is directly applicable to the original argument.

A point I did not address

I only replied to a comment specifically about USAID

Like I said, you're trying to talk about something I never addressed specifically.

There are infinite things that influence culture and cultural shifts

Also you are changing your argument

You said this specifically

quote:

why were we endlessly told these labels were deeply authentic, innate, and immutable?


Do better
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 6:17 pm
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27953 posts
Posted on 9/28/26 at 6:20 pm to
In 6 years, HS seniors went from 7% gay to 22% gay.

Simpletons are so susceptible to Propaganda
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