re: Teens becoming "straighter", females seeing sharp decline in bisexuality

Culture changing naturally and people getting tired of woke is a big reason Trump won in 2024. Society had shifted like it always does.

Sneak preview: after a cultural cycle or 2 society will flip back to whatever progressive culture is en vogue at that time....then it will be cast aside in a cycle or 2.

And on and on we go

I just don’t understand how someone would willingly want to smell another man’s butthole.

The true gays have to be mentally ill.

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People went through this phase for attention. Nothing more.

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Yes. Using bisexuality in HS girls to prove anything about innate sexuality is wholly dishonest.

HS girls are hugely impressionable. Girls will low self esteem crave attention and seek identity.

Being "bi" is the easiest pathway to latch yourself onto the LGBTQ group. It was a fad influenced by social media.

But... muh tranz genocides...


I chalk the increase up to the push by our media to normalize gender dysphoria combined with the social contagion aspect of social media (which probably increased during the COVID lockdown).

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I chalk the increase up to the push by our media to normalize gender dysphoria

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This still exists in the same form and quantity

Just go to the Movie TV board

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combined with the socil contagion aspect of social media

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Again, still is happening

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which probably increased during the COVID lockdown).

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Covid probably did have an impact that extended the cultural phases, yes.

Teens become straighter, I’m becoming gayer.

Everything balances out.

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People went through this phase for attention. Nothing more.

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This. We moved into a new house 6 years ago, in a military community, and our daughter was 10 at the time and a social gadfly...had LOTS of friends aged 8-14. At one point in time about half of those young girls claimed they were gay, maybe about 75% of them. As far as I know none of them are 6 years later. Our daughter certainly isn't and is embarassed when her brother teases her about her "gay" period. Most of the parents simply ignored it. Thats what we did. Some got all worked up about it and those kids stayed in that phase longer than the others did. One of those kids parents lost their mind over it, sent that girl to live with relatives, had her in all sorts of counseling, and she turned into an utter disaster. Our daughters friends are now 14-18 and as far as I know none of them are gay, they all have boyfriends. It was a phase brought on by people not being put out by homosexuality like we were in the past. It was trendy. It was shocking. When they realized it wasn't really shocking they moved onto other ways to outrage their parents.

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After reading the thread, I'm really struggling why your posts in this thread received so much anger.

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Especially after their argument was nuked out of orbit this morning

I think they're trying to argue that it wasn't "natural" because it was influenced, ignoring that all culture is always influenced (including whatever culture they prefer at this moment).

It's your typical "authenticity" fallacy from in-group identification. The in-group [insert variable here] is authentic. The out-group [same variable] is fake because of [aspect of out-group].

So in this instance, their culture is THE real culture (the authenticity). By itself it is "natural" due to this authenticity.

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No, it means 9th grade girls are full of shite

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They are today, they were yesterday and they will be tommorrow.

Clearly in terms of evolutionary biology, straight is going to be the super-dominant trait.

But humans are weird and lots of things can influence sexuality, and I don't just mean straight/gay sexuality. Just look at this in terms of heterosexual kinks.

We still don't know where kinks come from, but they're real and are associated with some sort of excitement/dopamine trigger in response to stimuli at some point in life. I know one theory is that exposure at a certain point of sexual development basically imprints that moving forward.

But I think we can all look back to our childhoods and, looking back, clearly identify kids who were gay before sexual development. Clearly some have some sort of biological quirk that makes them that way.

Then there are the people who have sexuality influenced by sexual abuse. This can manifest itself in all sorts of weird ways (not all sexually). But clearly there is an association for some with adult homosexuality manifesting from childhood abuse.

Then you can get into the extreme stuff like serial killers, extreme BDSM, etc.

And I'm a straight hetero male who is fully vanilla. This isn't some defense of self. It's all strange/different to me. Sexuality in humans is weird and we still aren't close to figuring it out.