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re: Teen cheerleader's Snapchat brings Supreme Court clash over schools and free speech
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:03 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:03 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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If she wins, which I think she should, I wonder about it opening up codes of conduct, like the ones places like BYU have.
BYU is private which gives them more leeway. And college isn't mandatory whereas K-12 is.
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:03 pm to squid_hunt
Breaking news: highschool kid gets emotional and spouts off. Are we serious about this right now? What happened to teaching kids and not punishing what could be good kids? This action by the school is ludicrous
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:04 pm to Centinel
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The issue at hand is that a public school is in no position to punish a child for remarks made outside of school
Where did I say they should? I said it was dumb for the school to do this.
That doesn’t make teenage actions not dumb as well.
What you do in your private time shouldn’t have bearing on a public institution (in most cases). But if you make that private stuff public, you are kind of asking for nosy rosies to give their 2 cents.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:06 pm to hankiba
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Why is it dumb for the school to have a policy for participation in extra curricular activities that limits social media?
Because in addition to what the other guy said, the school doesn’t have this policy.
There is a vague line in the Code of Conduct that admonishes “general conduct unbecoming of a student” and it means whatever the person of authority wants it to mean, to whatever application that person wants to append it to.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:09 pm to Fortnight2Flat
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I sometimes forget you Louisianians are subject to at will termination and just accept it as gospel.
At will employment is awesome.
Competent people prefer it.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Intentionally misleading names that do the opposite of what they are supposed to.
Leftist organizations tend to do this. People's Republic of China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Black Lives Matter, etc....
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:10 pm to Fortnight2Flat
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Isn't it a double standard to say businesses can fire employees for shite they do and say off the clock but a school can't do the same for it's clubs?
For one I can work at another business elsewhere.
For the other, you are practically removing the kid’s ability to experience/participate in something they only have a chance to be a part of four a short time.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:12 pm to DemonKA3268
I guess I'm pretty lucky.
I have literally done a pretty similar tirade about my school back when I was in high school.
I have literally done a pretty similar tirade about my school back when I was in high school.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:13 pm to keks tadpole
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Never put in writing anything that you wouldn't want anyone to read.
Don't disagree.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:13 pm to Fortnight2Flat
quote:Why shouldn’t that be the case?
I sometimes forget you Louisianians are subject to at will termination and just accept it as gospel.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:17 pm to AbitaFan08
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This thread is going to be full of people agreeing with the ACLU. An OT rarity.
Honestly, how often does the ACLU actually apply logic in this day and age?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:22 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:Rarely.
Honestly, how often does the ACLU actually apply logic in this day and age?
Remember, that is the entity that opposes due process being given to those in college who were accused of sexual misconduct.
They are for civil liberties only when it suits their progressive political views.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:24 pm to AbitaFan08
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This thread is going to be full of people agreeing with the ACLU. An OT rarity.
Heaven forbid people form an opinion by evaluate a situation with reason and personal beliefs without muddling it by revising YOUR opinion based on what others might believe.
I suspect I might blow your mind here: do you realize that it’s actually probable that two people can support the same action with entirely different reasons/basis? That there is no direct comparison between the political beliefs due to that one data point?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:25 pm to efrad
quote:Teachers? No
Forget executive branch overreach, now teachers and administrators are dictators?
Admin? Possibly
School Board? Likely
Quit overreacting.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:30 pm to bayoubengals88
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Teachers? No
Admin? Possibly
School Board? Likely
Quit overreacting
You say this as if it wasn’t a thing a short while ago of LSU instructors (where traditionally it is more conservative than most) planning to collude to target anyone placed on a list of “undesirables”
Common? prob not.
Definitely not occurring? Definitely not.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:30 pm to bayoubengals88
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Teachers? No
Teachers are heroes.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:36 pm to fr33manator
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Teen cheerleader's Snapchat brings Supreme Court clash over schools and free speech
I see I’m getting downvoted to hell but whatever. Parents need to teach their kids that posting shite online WILL bite them in the arse.
Now replace it with religion and see how it works.
The question isn't whether or not they should be taught something, the question is who is appropriate and who has the authority to punish them in certain circumstances.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:43 pm to Kimist
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The question isn't whether or not they should be taught something, the question is who is appropriate and who has the authority to punish them in certain circumstances.
But schools should have the ability to ruin your life if you get out of line! Why else do we have schools if not to teach you the wonders of authoritarianism?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:46 pm to Volvagia
Can’t compare high school and college.
Instructors and Professors are not teachers.
Instructors and Professors are not teachers.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:47 pm to squid_hunt
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Teachers are heroes.
Nope.
If it wasn’t clear, I’m a teacher.
Heroes fight on the front lines. The Somme, Normandy, Okinawa, etc. That’s it.
The pandemic hasn’t created heroes. People who have risked getting sick are doing it to keep a job and make an income.
If anything that’s self interest, not sacrifice!!
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 1:02 pm
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