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re: Teen cheerleader's Snapchat brings Supreme Court clash over schools and free speech
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:50 am to Fortnight2Flat
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:50 am to Fortnight2Flat
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Isn't it a double standard to say businesses can fire employees for shite they do and say off the clock but a school can't do the same for it's clubs?
No, it's not. A business is not a public school, and vice versa.
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:51 am to DemonKA3268
After seeing her picture I assumed this was just another transgender thread.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:51 am to Fortnight2Flat
quote:Private school, absolutely.
Isn't it a double standard to say businesses can fire employees for shite they do and say off the clock but a school can't do the same for it's clubs?
This wasn’t a private school.
Now, if you would like to discuss the rights of public employees, a different group, ISO, we could do that too.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:54 am to Fortnight2Flat
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How so?
Isn't it a double standard to say businesses can fire employees for shite they do and say off the clock but a school can't do the same for it's clubs?
Because you don't understand the difference between private/public. A private business can do whatever it wants as a condition of employment.
Because it's private.
Public institutions serve the public and the rights within these institutions are the same as your rights in any other public spaces.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 11:55 am
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:56 am to efrad
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Absolutely ridiculous to have arbitrary rules imposed by school administration apply to your life entirely until you leave school. Forget executive branch overreach, now teachers and administrators are dictators?
This is my position. Not sure why the government turds can punish you for protected speech. I thought we resolved all this way back in the 80's and 90's?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:56 am to nola000
I see I’m getting downvoted to hell but whatever. Parents need to teach their kids that posting shite online WILL bite them in the arse.
It’s like being pissed at your parents, going to your room and muttering under your breath. You can probably get away with that.
But insult your parents where they can hear you and you bring the hammer down.
It’s not even about right or wrong really, it’s about what you can get away with in what situation.
It’s like being pissed at your parents, going to your room and muttering under your breath. You can probably get away with that.
But insult your parents where they can hear you and you bring the hammer down.
It’s not even about right or wrong really, it’s about what you can get away with in what situation.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:58 am to nola000
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A private business can do whatever it wants as a condition of employment.
I sometimes forget you Louisianians are subject to at will termination and just accept it as gospel.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:58 am to fr33manator
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I see I’m getting downvoted to hell but whatever. Parents need to teach their kids that posting shite online WILL bite them in the arse.
I don't think anyone necessarily disagrees with this. The issue at hand is that a public school is in no position to punish a child for remarks made outside of school.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:59 am to nola000
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Do you want to raise your kids or do you want School teachers to raise your kids?
Not sure I want to hear the answer to this question from the general public.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:59 am to Packer
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Looks like a female version of Michael Shannon
I was thinking more Agent Smith from the Matrix
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:59 am to fr33manator
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Parents need to teach their kids that posting shite online WILL bite them in the arse.
Key word is Parents.
I get what you are saying though but a public school shouldn't have that kind of power.
The kid was dumb for doing it but it shouldn't have resulted in her being kicked off the team.
Punishment is way too harsh.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:00 pm to DemonKA3268
Getting our kids used to having government watch them 24/7.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:00 pm to fr33manator
You already see it happening now to some extent but imagine in the next few decades when all the people running for political office or becoming famous are people who completely grew up with social media. You’ll have someone running for governor at age 45 but people will dig up something dumb they said or did at age 16.
Kids have always done cringe shite but now that cringe is on board cast for the whole world to see.
Kids have always done cringe shite but now that cringe is on board cast for the whole world to see.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:01 pm to DemonKA3268
Never put in writing anything that you wouldn't want anyone to read.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:01 pm to 1BamaRTR
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The Snap itself self-deleted in a short period of time, but one of her teammates took a screenshot.[8] One of those teammates was the daughter of one of the coaches, who had herself been suspended from cheering at a few games after she had posted disparaging remarks online about another school's cheerleading squad's uniforms.[11] By the time school resumed for the following week, the screenshot had been widely shared among students, especially the cheerleaders. Some who had seen it came to the cheerleading coaches "visibly upset" by the Snap[12] over the next few days.[6] At the end of the week one of the coaches pulled B.L. out of class to inform her that she was suspended from cheerleading for the next year as a result of her Snap.[5] B.L.'s parents appealed the suspension to the school board, which upheld it.[9]
Snitches get stitches
And LOL at being visibly upset over that post.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:01 pm to fr33manator
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Parents need to teach their kids that posting shite online WILL bite them in the arse
I agree but this isn't the government's job. If parents want to be dumb asses, more power to them.
I'd rather tend to the inconveniences of too much freedom than the inconveniences of too little. Or something like that. One of many quotes I frick up all the time.
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But insult your parents where they can hear you and you bring the hammer down.
Maybe your parents. Everybody parents differently.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:01 pm to lsu13lsu
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Getting our kids used to having government watch them 24/7.
What's next? Cops in every high school?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:02 pm to squid_hunt
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Not sure I want to hear the answer to this question from the general public.
Yeah, there are a plethora of parents who don't parent.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:02 pm to Fortnight2Flat
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I sometimes forget you Louisianians are subject to at will termination and just accept it as gospel
You don't have a right to a job provided to you by somebody else's hard work. What makes you think this? You're not entitled to a livelihood. It's your job to provide that for yourself.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:03 pm to hyzersoze
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Some who had seen it came to the cheerleading coaches "visibly upset" by the Snap
Yup, that was a high school mean girls hit job.
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