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re: Teen boy told to join girls team over birth certificate error
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:41 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:41 pm to SallysHuman
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Arizona says players must play on the team that represents their sex on their birth certificate at time of issue.
Arizona also says boys can claim to be girls on amended Birth Certificates.
Absolutely none of this would be a problem if this kid's parents fixed his BC immediately and if the whole of society didn't go down the rainbow brick road of sexual degeneracy.
I’d say use your brain for 2 seconds but you’ve made it abundantly clear you don’t have one
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Shaddup Mingo... I heard you were in jail, anyway. 
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:52 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Not too many years ago the corrected birth certificate would have been sufficient.
In the last few years we have had to make laws to prevent boys from competing on girls teams and this is the result.
Inability to use common sense because the LAW!
In the last few years we have had to make laws to prevent boys from competing on girls teams and this is the result.
Inability to use common sense because the LAW!
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:28 pm to Shexter
I don't understand the problem here. Nobody cares if a girl is good enough to play on a boys' team. So just let this kid play on the boys' team. There's no issue with fairness.
Essentially, male sports leagues are just "open." The best players should play.
Essentially, male sports leagues are just "open." The best players should play.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:30 pm to Shexter
There really should be no boy's team in any sport. There should be the team, then a girl's team.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:49 pm to chryso
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Let's stop right here. "Assigned?" I think you meant to type "observed."
In this instance it seems it was assigned, though.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:There's a part of me that would like to see him make an example out of the dumbasses at that school. Play a year on the girls team and destroy every State record there is, then come in the next year with his chromosome test.
i thought it was common for girls to try out for boys teams. now you never see boys trying out for girls teams until the whole trans thing.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 3:11 pm to Shexter
I still don’t understand how this wasn’t caught or corrected 14 years ago. At hospital We had to sign off on verifying what was being submitted for birth certificates.
The article makes it appear that parents knew and had a few issues caused by situation in the past (just didn’t cause many issues), but for some reason the parents did nothing then to correct it.
Then there are the times a student’s sex comes up on school forms especially at the beginning of each year when a parent has to verify accuracy of school records. There were other things we had to submit a copy of a birth certificate to enroll kid in including many things with boys and girls being separated like with sports outside of the school district before middle school.
So parents ignored all of this for some reason for years.
Since he likely started elementary school around the fall of 2017 which was after the trans started the big push after their outrage after the women’s March in DC pushed vagina hats and reproduction as being a part of a women’s identity I also wonder if school officials were scared to ask the parents anything or face being canceled.
If parents kept verifying the kid was female while verifying school records the school probably didn’t want to call them in and ask were they sure with all the faux outrage just beginning. If he transferred from another elementary then it would have been during the full trans rage happening and supported by Dems and the left.
Or did the school did ask but were told a different story than being told today??
Did the kid get a surprise at the start of puberty like what happens to boys the Dominicans call güevedoces?? Or some other intersex situation?
The below from the above quote also makes it seem more like the parents and doctor submitted a state allowed change of gender listed on BC and not an actual correction to the original due to a long standing and ignored clerical error from birth.
“ the parent submitted a new birth certificate and a doctor’s note indicating a gender change.”
There are doctors who believe in permanently damaging kids in their belief that people can magically switch sex/gender, so a note from the kid’s current doctor’s isnt absolute proof this issue is only about a long ignore BC clerical error.
Unless there is more to the story this would be an extremely rare case when a clerical error on BC from birth gets ignored by all involved with the kid for 14 years, so one would have to assume the fix can’t just be submitting a gender change allowed by the state for trans type of changes. It would also mean the parents had 14 years to fix, but they did nothing.
The article makes it appear that parents knew and had a few issues caused by situation in the past (just didn’t cause many issues), but for some reason the parents did nothing then to correct it.
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Over the years, the fact that Laker’s birth certificate mistakenly listed him as female hasn’t caused many issues
Then there are the times a student’s sex comes up on school forms especially at the beginning of each year when a parent has to verify accuracy of school records. There were other things we had to submit a copy of a birth certificate to enroll kid in including many things with boys and girls being separated like with sports outside of the school district before middle school.
So parents ignored all of this for some reason for years.
Since he likely started elementary school around the fall of 2017 which was after the trans started the big push after their outrage after the women’s March in DC pushed vagina hats and reproduction as being a part of a women’s identity I also wonder if school officials were scared to ask the parents anything or face being canceled.
If parents kept verifying the kid was female while verifying school records the school probably didn’t want to call them in and ask were they sure with all the faux outrage just beginning. If he transferred from another elementary then it would have been during the full trans rage happening and supported by Dems and the left.
Or did the school did ask but were told a different story than being told today??
Did the kid get a surprise at the start of puberty like what happens to boys the Dominicans call güevedoces?? Or some other intersex situation?
quote:
In this particular case, the student has been enrolled in QCUSD since elementary school and has been registered as a biological female throughout their time in our district. The day before basketball tryouts, the parent submitted a new birth certificate and a doctor’s note indicating a gender change. Our schools rely on a student’s original birth certificate at birth to determine athletic eligibility.
The below from the above quote also makes it seem more like the parents and doctor submitted a state allowed change of gender listed on BC and not an actual correction to the original due to a long standing and ignored clerical error from birth.
“ the parent submitted a new birth certificate and a doctor’s note indicating a gender change.”
There are doctors who believe in permanently damaging kids in their belief that people can magically switch sex/gender, so a note from the kid’s current doctor’s isnt absolute proof this issue is only about a long ignore BC clerical error.
Unless there is more to the story this would be an extremely rare case when a clerical error on BC from birth gets ignored by all involved with the kid for 14 years, so one would have to assume the fix can’t just be submitting a gender change allowed by the state for trans type of changes. It would also mean the parents had 14 years to fix, but they did nothing.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 3:19 pm to dallastigers
From a different article:
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"When I was young it was messed up," Laker Jackson said. "Put it down as a girl but I'm a boy and it's a big complication."
"He's my youngest of six kids," Becky Jackson said. "The gender marker is not something I looked at, I looked at the time and date making sure they were right and put it in the safe. I wasn't even aware it was [marked] female until we registered [Laker] at school in the Queen Creek School District."
The family says the error was never an issue until this year. After discussions with school staff in the spring, Becky began the process to have the document corrected. Laker was examined by a board-certified doctor, and the family submitted both medical documentation and a corrected birth certificate to the district.
quote:
"It said he was examined and yes he is a biological male," Becky Jackson said.
But when Laker Jackson arrived for tryouts, his father says he was escorted out of the gym.
"Poor Laker is sitting there and I'm trying to hold tears back," Joseph Jackson said. "My kid just got escorted out in front of all his friends, what must they be thinking about him?"
quote:
"The principal did say for the rest of his time at high school, he'll have to play on a girls team," Joseph Jackson said. "Our older son is 6'5" and a linebacker at ASU. We have tall, strong kids. It's not likely Laker is going to be someone that other people want their daughters playing with or against. For me, it feels like something bigger than just my son doing what he needs to do and we're fighting against some political cause we have nothing to do with. This is a kid whose birth certificate was in error."
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The district told the family a chromosome analysis could be used to verify eligibility, but the Jacksons say that could cost as much as $2,500 — and even then, they’re not sure it would change anything.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 3:20 pm to greygoose
i believe men playing in women sports is absurd but i wish a bunch of guys would start identifying as women and completely take over WNBA, LPGA, WCBB etc just to make all the ones defending it look stupid as can be
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:14 pm to Lonnie Utah
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No it doesn't. I did karyotyping in my college genetics lab.
So how much does it cost? You know, since you are the expert on the cost of chromosome testing based on your college experience.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:17 pm to SallysHuman
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I read this on one of my local news sites.
WHY did the parents let there be an error on their child's birth certificate for so long?
That's on them. Haha, they thought it was funny... really?
What even is this article arguing? Not to adhere to biological sex in the realm of sports? And THIS is their poster child case? Idiot parents? Really??
All of this. Esp the part about the parents. You don't want a corrected bc cause you think it's funny.
Sometimes I really think we really should have a poll test of some kind before people vote.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:20 pm to BiggerBear
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So how much does it cost? You know, since you are the expert on the cost of chromosome testing based on your college experience.
Asked google for labcorp rates
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The cost for a Labcorp sex determination blood draw varies depending on the type of test. An early DNA test to determine sex costs between $105 (at-home) and $210 (legal)
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:26 pm to Shexter
Why TF did they go home laughing. Get the MFing thing fixed and give it back to me you stupid MFers. Parents are fcukin stupid
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:33 pm to Shexter
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Laker’s parents got a corrected birth certificate along with a note from a doctor, but the district says that isn’t enough.
This school system is playing politics. Everyone involved needs to be fired.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:16 pm to Shexter
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"He's my youngest of six kids," Becky Jackson said. "The gender marker is not something I looked at, I looked at the time and date making sure they were right and put it in the safe.
This is BS. More concerned about the date and time being correct??? The time over the baby’s listed sex??
quote:This has been stated by the district to have been in elementary school. Even if it’s true the kid was in 8th grade at the time of the tryouts. Years after admitting to finding out they still do nothing until he is told he can’t try out. If elementary school ends at 5th grade there that means tryouts were 3 or more years after finding out the BC was incorrect on kid’s sex.
I wasn't even aware it was [marked] female until we registered [Laker] at school in the Queen Creek School District."
quote:Board certified of what. There are board certified doctors willing to lie about a kid’s gender, give them hormone therapy, and even mutilate them. Also, is anyone besides the parents seeing the document, seeing what was exactly examined or tested, or saying it was a true correction of original form and not just the state allowed after the fact gender “corrections” for transgenders/mentally ill?
Laker was examined by a board-certified doctor, and the family submitted both medical documentation and a corrected birth certificate to the district.
It said he was examined and yes he is a biological male," Becky Jackson said.
Also, below is part of law the school
quote:https://www.azleg.gov/ars/15/00120-02.htm
15-120.02. Interscholastic and intramural athletics; designation of teams; biological sex; cause of action; definition
A. Each interscholastic or intramural athletic team or sport that is sponsored by a public school or a private school whose students or teams compete against a public school shall be expressly designated as one of the following based on the biological sex of the students who participate on the team or in the sport:
1. "Males", "men" or "boys".
2. "Females", "women" or "girls".
3. "Coed" or "mixed".
B. Athletic teams or sports designated for "females", "women" or "girls" may not be open to students of the male sex.
C. This section does not restrict the eligibility of any student to participate in any interscholastic or intramural athletic team or sport designated as being for "males", "men" or "boys" or designated as "coed" or "mixed".…
From
Policy © 5-410 Interscholastic Athletics
quote:https://az01001175.schoolwires.net/cms/lib/AZ01001175/Centricity/Domain/41/Policy%205-410%20Interscholastic%20Athletics.pdf
Designation of Teams by Sex
All athletic events shall be designated as one of the following: (1) "boys", (2) "girls", or (3) "mixed"
.
Teams and events for girls shall be reserved for students whose biological sex as determined at birth is female as required by A.R.S. § 15-120.02.
It seems like boys sports are open to girls in Arizona per the law and also not restricted by 5-410 Interscholastic Athletic policy, but the AIA made a rule in its bylaws restricting any crossover when both sexes have teams for the same sport. The boys are never allowed to crops over into a girls team. Some sports are girls only with no boys or mixed teams allowed.
quote:https://aiaonline.org/files/64/article-14-general-provisions.pdf
DISCRIMINATION
14.11.1 A school may sponsor separate teams for members of each sex in a particular sport or a mixed-sex team in a particular sport, except that a school shall not offer the following sports on a mixed-sex team basis: softball / badminton / volleyball / flag football.
14.11.2 To compensate for the lack of opportunity for girls in interscholastic activities, the following sports shall be offered for girls only: badminton / softball / flag football.
14.11.3 A school may offer volleyball only for girls and not offer volleyball for boys.
14.11.4 Since boys historically have had ample opportunity for participation, and currently have available sufficient avenues for interscholastic participation, boys are not allowed to qualify for girls’ teams in the following sports: badminton / softball / volleyball / flag football. To allow boys to qualify for girls' teams in these sports would displace girls from those teams and further limit girls' opportunities for participation in interscholastic athletics.
14.11.5 A school may offer badminton, flag football, softball, beach volleyball and volleyball for boys if sanctioned by the AIA membership in accordance with the AIA Constitution and Bylaws.
14.11.6 Whenever a school provides a team(s) for boys and a team(s) for girls in the same sport, girls shall not be permitted to qualify for the boys' team(s) in that sport, nor shall boys be permitted to qualify for the girls' team(s) in that sport.
DETERMINATION: The Executive Board determined that baseball and softball are considered two separate sports and that the current AIA Constitution and Bylaws does not contain a rule, which excludes girls from participating in baseball. (Ex. Bd. 2/20/96)
14.11.7 In the case of a mixed-sex team and a single-sex team, the mixed-sex team shall compete only against a boys' team or another mixed-sex team.
What I can’t seem to find is what is used for determining biological sex when the state allows the people to change their gender on the birth certificate after the fact. The original has to still be on file I guess, but somewhere correcting for clerical errors has to be addressed. I doubt it accounted for crappy parents ignoring the issue for 14 years while also using the supposedly incorrect BC to enter elementary school and then still ignoring the error for several years.
If the parents submitted a true correction to original then this is all political theater. If they only did the trans related changing of gender and hoped also adding a doctor’s note would suffice to cover original still showing female the parents are once again showing their laziness and poor parenting.
This still smells like parents, school, and district are the ones actually playing politics. Regardless the parents are really crappy for letting this go on for 14 years or for lying about what caused their kid to be labeled a female at birth.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:26 pm to ProjectP2294
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Perry Berry
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:01 pm to BiggerBear
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So how much does it cost? You know, since you are the expert on the cost of chromosome testing based on your college experience.
I didn't say I was an expert. I said I did it once in a college setting. The price was included in the cost of the class. But it couldn't have been that expensive if they were letting dumb college kids do it. If I remember correctly, we used onion cells.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:20 pm to upgrayedd
This kid was born when I went to college. Kill me.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:01 am to Shexter
I got kicked out of women's weightlifting in college. The other girls were bench pressing with an empty bar. I was benching 175 at the time. I was sent to lift with the men. It worked out very well. The instructor was amazing.
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