re: Teachers are walking away from their careers in Alabama because of unruly students

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That is what their mom and dad are for. I get it, people are going to have to be more responsible for themselves in creating their family, but that's on them. There needs to be other social welfare reforms to prevent more babies equaling more money from the government to coincide with this education reform.

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I'm with you on the second half of your statement. But on the first, there's a lot of families that care deeply about their children were both parents work outside the home in order to make ends meet. I don't know if we as a society want to tell these middle class families to just "figure it out".

Alternative schools for those misbehaving needs to become a more prevalent thing.

We need to dump NCLB and start focusing on how to separate those who want to learn from those who have no drive or want to be in a classroom.

Son wanted to be a math teacher since his sophomore year in high school, but one year in an Alabama public middle school came real close to ending that dream.

The school provided no books for his students to take home. The students were never prepared and their antics wore on his nerves every day. None of his students responded to any type of discipline he tried (that is, was allowed to try).

It all culminated in an incident where he tapped a student on the shoulder and she hit him across the face with a book. He immediately called in the vice-prinicpal and got himself checked out by the school nurse (to document the incident as well as make sure his nose wasn't broken).

He was put on administrative leave while the system investigated. It took three weeks. Even though he was found to be without any fault, he was out of the classroom two weeks longer than the student.

On top of all of that, a different student was negligently shot on her way home. He found out from the news. Since he was suspended, he could not go to her funeral or any memorial service for her.

Since he was a first year teacher, he had no recourse when he was not picked up for the next year.

He was hired by his alma mater private high school pretty much as soon as he was available. They were happy to have him. Yet, there was a delay in getting him on contract because the Montgomery system didn't report his exoneration to the state. He had to show the school a copy of the letter of exoneration to the principal to get under contract.

He took a 25% pay cut, but now his teaching spirit has returned and he is so much happier.

I could have written the original article years ago.

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t all culminated in an incident where he tapped a student on the shoulder and she hit him across the face with a book. He immediately called in the vice-prinicpal and got himself checked out by the school nurse (to document the incident as well as make sure his nose wasn't broken).

He was put on administrative leave while the system investigated. It took three weeks. Even though he was found to be without any fault, he was out of the classroom two weeks longer than the student.

On top of all of that, a different student was negligently shot on her way home. He found out from the news. Since he was suspended, he could not go to her funeral or any memorial service for her.

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There's not much school systems can do about the breakdown of the family unit and lack of discipline / care at home.

But they sure AF can do things about situations like this. That sort of investigation shouldn't take more than 30 min. 3 weeks? WTF are they doing?

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The school provided no books for his students to take home

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WTF is there money for books??? I'd say maybe they hired too many central administrators, but if it takes them three weeks to investigate a kid hitting a teacher, then the money's sure not being used there, either.

Long story as to why, but I was in half honors, half “on level” classes at a public high school not all that long ago and the difference was night and day (no pun intended)

It was really like going to a different school everyday

Ol Slick teaches in the Destin area and I can tell whoever cares to read this that yes, a lot of these little !@#$!@$ don't care, have no respect, etc and are trouble, but I just tell em: you do for me and I do for you! In other words, get your industry certs which is what my class is all about and I pretty much don't care what you do. I let em have food delivered and wander around the campus of Northwest Fl. State College

The problem came when federal mandates made it so that you couldn't kick a trouble kid out of school. Those kids used to get sent to the career ed center and out of the regular classroom. Now you can't do that because it might stunt their growth as a piece of shite.

Hell, expelled equals suspended for the year, nowadays. Used to mean that you were done.

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kids today compared to ten years ago are night and day.

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This view has literally been made for thousands of years.

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“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

? Socrates

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“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

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I don't care if a member of the second generation of humans said that. I've been teaching for 24 years, and today it is much different than when I started, as far as student behavior.

Because parents have nothing to do with it? I notice my nephew completely different when it’s just me and him and when his parents and my in-laws are around. When it’s just me he’s respectful and knows Acts right or I stop taking him to ballgames, staying after to meet players etc. When his parents are around sir and ma’am is never spoken, he interrupts adults talking, and ignores things he’s told to do and he’s not half as bad as kids he hangs out with.