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re: Teachers are walking away from their careers in Alabama because of unruly students
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:32 pm to BigDropper
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:32 pm to BigDropper
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No she doesn't..
I mean when you factor in summer vacation, a week for Thanksgiving, Spring break week, all the federal holidays, the other little breaks school districts are doing now (Easter break, Fall Break, Mardi Gras, etc.), and the standard 5 sick/personal days per semester that roll one if you don’t use them it’s pretty damn close to 4 months off if not more.
What gets me, on top of the other disciplinary issues and administrative bullshite, is when a kid finally does get suspended a lot of school districts allow them to make up any work or test they miss. Even during the early 2000s when I was in high school if you got suspended and a test happened to be given during that time you were just shite out of luck and took the zero. Now suspension is just another vacation for a couple of days.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:36 pm
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:13 pm to LSUTigerBand85
What school?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:14 pm to OWLFAN86
I don't...
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:16 pm to SalE
She lectures on the Constitution every Semester..and you?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:48 pm to JabarkusRussell
My dad went back to teach middle school social studies as a kind of late life career change. He got bored being retired. He barely lasted two years before calling it quits and moving to the beach with all the other old people 
He was at a Title 1 school - I'm not sure what the status entails, but I got the sense that a lot of the kids are low-income and the schools have minimal funding. Not that this matters necessarily, but he said he had 3 white kids maximum in each of his classes (of about 30) and the rest were African American or Latino. His experience was that every day was kinda like a war zone, just non-stop kids throwing shite at him and each other, picking fights, a couple got caught with drugs, guns, and condoms (keep in mind, these are 6th, 7th, and 8th graders).
I think schools now are just 8 hour babysitting services funded by the state. Dunno what that means for the future of America, but it isn't good. I mean, we should all feel pretty safe that our jobs won't be taken by some young tech savvy whippersnapper but other than that, we're well and truly boned. Maybe the situation isn't so bad in places like the northeast or perhaps private schools still churn out good kids.
My ex taught at the college level and I read some of the emails and papers those kids sent in. Holy shite they were all borderline retarded. Hardly any of them could string a sentence together. Every couple of semesters, one would accuse her of unfair treatment or discrimination and she'd have to attend a meeting with the department head when the student lodged a formal complaint of racism or some nonsense. And this is at a Big 12 school in the heartland of America, not some ghetto arse BRCC situation.
He was at a Title 1 school - I'm not sure what the status entails, but I got the sense that a lot of the kids are low-income and the schools have minimal funding. Not that this matters necessarily, but he said he had 3 white kids maximum in each of his classes (of about 30) and the rest were African American or Latino. His experience was that every day was kinda like a war zone, just non-stop kids throwing shite at him and each other, picking fights, a couple got caught with drugs, guns, and condoms (keep in mind, these are 6th, 7th, and 8th graders).
I think schools now are just 8 hour babysitting services funded by the state. Dunno what that means for the future of America, but it isn't good. I mean, we should all feel pretty safe that our jobs won't be taken by some young tech savvy whippersnapper but other than that, we're well and truly boned. Maybe the situation isn't so bad in places like the northeast or perhaps private schools still churn out good kids.
My ex taught at the college level and I read some of the emails and papers those kids sent in. Holy shite they were all borderline retarded. Hardly any of them could string a sentence together. Every couple of semesters, one would accuse her of unfair treatment or discrimination and she'd have to attend a meeting with the department head when the student lodged a formal complaint of racism or some nonsense. And this is at a Big 12 school in the heartland of America, not some ghetto arse BRCC situation.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:59 pm to Boring
Anyone who would chose this career path deserves exactly what they get. Same for police. Nothing is going to change until no one is stupid enough to volunteer.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:00 am to TDcline
LA teachers are SEVERELY underpaid.
That said, GA, TX, & many counties in FL pay extremely well above the $50k, at about the 5+ years if experience levels.
That said, GA, TX, & many counties in FL pay extremely well above the $50k, at about the 5+ years if experience levels.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:20 am to JabarkusRussell
This is so true. I taught in Gonzales 5 years ago. I had 35 students per elementary class and the legal limit was 33. I reported this to the school board, and the principal pulled my 2 best students so I'd be at 33.
Every discipline referral to the principal's office is a negative write up in the teacher's file. It was insane.
Every discipline referral to the principal's office is a negative write up in the teacher's file. It was insane.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:43 am to ksayetiger
no,this is what happens when fricking crybaby millenials become parents. they instill no discipline at home and it shows away from home
Weird, all of my problem students were raised by Gen X'ers.
Weird, all of my problem students were raised by Gen X'ers.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:49 am to Van Wilder
Mobile public schools?
Sounds about right.
Sounds about right.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:56 am to JabarkusRussell
My football coach kept us in check during school. You did not want a teacher telling coach you were acting bad in class, skipping, etc....
It didn’t matter if you were the starting WB or backup you paid for it all week before, during, and after practice.
One day he spit his entire cre of red man in a guys helmet and made him wear it during practice just because he sat on his helmet instead of taking a knee during a water break. You can imagine what happened to student athletes that acted up during school.
It didn’t matter if you were the starting WB or backup you paid for it all week before, during, and after practice.
One day he spit his entire cre of red man in a guys helmet and made him wear it during practice just because he sat on his helmet instead of taking a knee during a water break. You can imagine what happened to student athletes that acted up during school.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 1:57 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:03 am to HempHead
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Teach for America
Have a niece that joined this as well. A bleeding heart trying to change the world. Got shipped off to some shite hole in Mississippi and reality set in real quick. I don't think she lasted a year.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:14 am to Kay
Today Mandeville Jr High had its second threat of the year. Earlier, a kid brought a gun and pointed it at the resource officer. A few years ago, a kid hid a gun in the bathroom ceiling. This is Mandeville of all places.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:51 am to JabarkusRussell
Bring this back into the homes and school and you'll be amazed just how much better things will get.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:09 am to forever lsu30
quote:maybe there school systems are better then
That said, GA, TX, & many counties in FL pay extremely well above the $50k, at about the 5+ years if experience levels.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:15 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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maybe there school systems are better then
i'm more concerned about the quality of your school system
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:16 am to YouAre8Up
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Bring this back into the homes and school and you'll be amazed just how much better things will get.
if y'all don't think that physical punishment is used in the homes of lower income students, then you're insane
it's a major part of why violence is seen as THE conflict resolution tool in lower class cultures, from the trailer parks onward
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:47 am to JabarkusRussell
Funny story to lighten the mood.
My father was a high school football coach in Alabama.
He had a player (div 2 level) that came from a less than ideal home life. He could ride herd on Henry during the season because Henry wanted to play. But once the season ended, he didn't give a frick. My dad worked out a plan to get Henry sent to alternative school as soon as the season was over. The structure helped him. Did it for 3 years.
Today, Henry is a Captain in the US Navy.
My father was a high school football coach in Alabama.
He had a player (div 2 level) that came from a less than ideal home life. He could ride herd on Henry during the season because Henry wanted to play. But once the season ended, he didn't give a frick. My dad worked out a plan to get Henry sent to alternative school as soon as the season was over. The structure helped him. Did it for 3 years.
Today, Henry is a Captain in the US Navy.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:12 am to ksayetiger
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no,this is what happens when fricking crybaby millenials become parents. they instill no discipline at home and it shows away from home
The vast majority of millennials are not old enough to have kids in high school or middle school yet.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:18 am to forever lsu30
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LA teachers are SEVERELY underpaid.
Believe me, buddy. I know. The wife is a teacher (I got my eye on them Jody students though, baw)
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