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re: Teacher who had phone stolen and nudes stolen may face criminal charges
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:00 pm to VermilionTiger
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:00 pm to VermilionTiger
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Yep. It's never the childs fault.
As a husband of a high school teacher- THIS.
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
so getting something stolen off your phone is considered "contributing to the delinquency of a minor."
Makes sense
Makes sense
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:29 pm to shel311
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shel311
Just popped in to say I called this yesterday. The precedent you and a couple others were defending will open up this can of worms.
Of course if i remember correctly you and tangerine called that idea ludicrous. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American justice system.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:37 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:
AwesomeSauce
quick hijack...and frick that thieving little punk
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:38 pm to RB10
I argued the other side yesterday, but I don't see how she can have any charges against her legally. I only see how the school has it's own right to let her go.
This however is not the same. The same would have been her leaving the cell phone at home and a kid stealing it from her house. Or her bringing the video to school and keeping it in her private purse.
I think the school has a right to say they don't want their employees having sexually explicit content, but I don't see how charges can be brought against her for the delinquency issue. Then no one can have porn outside of their house (let's say in a brown paper bag on the way home from the smut store), since a kid might dig in the bag and see it while you aren't paying attention.
quote:
A kid breaks into your house and finds a personal video of you and your lady/man doing the deed. Would you be charged then?
This however is not the same. The same would have been her leaving the cell phone at home and a kid stealing it from her house. Or her bringing the video to school and keeping it in her private purse.
I think the school has a right to say they don't want their employees having sexually explicit content, but I don't see how charges can be brought against her for the delinquency issue. Then no one can have porn outside of their house (let's say in a brown paper bag on the way home from the smut store), since a kid might dig in the bag and see it while you aren't paying attention.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:39 pm to NoHoTiger
quote:
NoHoTiger
Afternoon madam secretary. Hope you are well.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:47 pm to shel311
quote:No it isn't. What is on your phone is no ones business. If she had nothing but donkey scat porn on her phone it wouldn't make a difference as long as she isn't looking at it while at school. A teacher isn't responsible for a thief.
Well yea, that's certainly up for debate.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:52 pm to Cap Crunch
quote:Maybe not for life, but he should be screwed for this, that's enough of a violation.
Let's just imagine that instead of his teacher he did this to one of his 16 year old classmates. Kid would be fricked for life.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:56 pm to LSUBoo
quote:You may be correct, but it could also be semantics on her part. She said there's no policy against inappropriate material on a cell phone specifically. But if there's a policy, and I'd imagine there is, about not having inappropriate material with you at school(a more generic policy), then that's where the debate lies.
Except the article yesterday stated that she hadn't broken any school policies by having the photos on her personal phone. (If I am remembering correctly...)
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:56 pm to KG6
quote:
This however is not the same. The same would have been her leaving the cell phone at home and a kid stealing it from her house. Or her bringing the video to school and keeping it in her private purse
Legally, which is what I was asking about, it is exactly the same. Going through someone's phone and posting their pictures, without permission, is illegal.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:57 pm to Breesus
quote:The article from yesterday's thread said she did not. Bad choice on her part.
Did she have any kind of security lock on her phone?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree with her facing charges. Keep your phone in a safer place and don't put nudes on it in the 1st place.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:59 pm to el Gaucho
quote:
Teachers shouldn't be taking nudes of themselves. It's pretty simple really
They shouldn't be having sex either imo
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:59 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:Can't speak for Tangerine, but I'm 99.9% certain I didn't comment on any posts about the precedent this would set.
Of course if i remember correctly you and tangerine called that idea ludicrous
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is an odd situation. I can't believe she is being witchhunted like this...I hope the kid who did this is sued, as well as the school district that canned her.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:01 pm to Chicken
So you think it's ok for her to leave her phone where a kid could get to it?????
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:01 pm to Scruffy
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Scruffy hopes she drops the hammer on the school and this kid gets burned at the metaphorical stake.
This is one of those things that still makes me feel like I'd never work in a school system without Union representation. Because when it boils down it the school system nor the parents give a frick about you as long as they are able to wipe their hands of the scandal. If the school wouldn't discipline the kid I'd file a charge for theft (and depending on the phone, that could be a felony charge in some states). And at the first threat of firing me for photos that were stolen from the phone that was stolen out of my desk, I would have my rep in there.
frick resigning.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:01 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Ok, but it is.
No it isn't
quote:Ok, let's play a hypothetical to see if that still flies. What if the kid found a homemade video of her killling someone. Nobody's business? She should skate because that's her private phone?
What is on your phone is no ones business. If she had nothing but donkey scat porn on her phone it wouldn't make a difference as long as she isn't looking at it while at school. A teacher isn't responsible for a thief.
No, I'm not comparing the 2 acts, but you're flatly saying that anything on her phone that is found during a theft she shouldn't be in trouble for. That's not true. We can debate this specific issue, but your blanket statement is not true at all.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:02 pm to ell_13
quote:
Shouldn't she be pressing charges?
The link in yesterday's thread said she would be filing charges against the kid.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:03 pm to el Gaucho
quote:
Teachers shouldn't be taking nudes of themselves. It's pretty simple really
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