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re: Tax refund surge is coming, JPMorgan strategist says, will shift US economy like stimulus

Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:18 am to
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9584 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:18 am to
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The government is taking an interest free loan from you


$500 is immaterial and your average citizen is terrible at savings and personal finance.

Your umm ackshually is noted though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:20 am to
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but honestly, this sounds like just some more partisan bullshite. I don’t believe any of the prior “stimulus” had any effect on the economy whatsoever…




The last thing we need are "stimulus checks" I would rather inflation slow than rise.

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31766 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:21 am to
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Yep always tried to work it out where I owed them a few dollars a year. People that think getting a huge refund is helping them is sad.

Considering the average person has zero self control and therefore zero savings, it is helping them. We can rue the fact that the average person needs that help, but that’s tangential.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9584 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:24 am to
Please tell us more about how an increased retund of $557 or $46 per month is live changing for your average citizen that already doesn't save or have much impulse control with spending.

You are screaming about nothing.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69175 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:25 am to
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You shouldn’t celebrate getting more of your money back. You should celebrate when less of your money is taken from you to begin with.


Is it ok to celebrate the fact that this extra refund wouldn't have happened at all under the whore in heels?
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
2671 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:27 am to
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Please tell us more about how an increased retund of $557 or $46 per month is live changing for your average citizen that already doesn't save or have much impulse control with spending.


$5 dollars a week will not buy you a TV, but $500 in one shot will, maybe when you get a small amount you will spend it better.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9584 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:31 am to
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$5 dollars a week will not buy you a TV, but $500 in one shot will, maybe when you get a small amount you will spend it better.


The extra $5 will get wasted on bullshite like Starbucks or DoorDash.

I don't see the $500 either way as meaningful.

It's not material enough to matter imo.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58020 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:43 am to
Carnival is going to need to hire bouncers for their pool areas.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:00 am to
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I don’t believe any of the prior “stimulus” had any effect on the economy whatsoever

Injecting trillions of dollars in cash into the economy led directly to the inflation of 2022.
Posted by Silent Death
Southwest Mississippi
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:26 am to
I’d drive it
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:41 am to
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Carnival is going to need to hire bouncers for their pool areas.


facts
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4663 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:53 am to
Whats it to you? Its their money
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:00 pm to
The first trick may be to get to where itemization exceeds the standard deduction. Many “deductions” are unavailable to middle income wage employees.
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
1317 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Why didn’t they adjust withholding in 2025 when this passed?

You can adjust your withholding whenever you want. It’s not up to the government or your employer to do so.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:34 pm to
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An extra $557 in tax refunds sounds like good news, but Kelly warns that this wave of repayments is not spread equally and could have unintended consequences for the broader economy.


Cool, let me know what tax liabilities are spread equally
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12362 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:57 pm to
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In other words, many taxpayers will pay more upfront and get a bigger refund in 2026. Kelly estimates that the average refund could be roughly $3,743 — that’s up from the average refund of $3,186 for the previous tax year, according to the IRS.

An extra $557 in tax refunds sounds like good news, but Kelly warns that this wave of repayments is not spread equally and could have unintended consequences for the broader economy




Does this mean you have to pay in taxes to get the additional refund? Is that what they mean by not equally spread out?

This reminds me of the story about the group of friends that used to go to the bar. 1 guy paid half the tab, 2 paid 15%, 2 paid 10% and the other five paid nothing. The owner came by and gave them a 10% discount and the ones that paid nothing were upset they didn’t get any of the 10%
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26131 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Extra cash for crawfish.


Not extra, just barely scrapping by. Crawfish prices are gonna be out of control!
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14299 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:20 pm to
$3000 refunds?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16861 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:44 pm to
Time to invest in that rim shop start up.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3153 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:48 pm to
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but honestly, this sounds like just some more partisan bullshite. I don’t believe any of the prior “stimulus” had any effect on the economy whatsoever…


The concern that poor people will suddenly have more money and drive the prices up of things they previously couldn’t afford is probably a misplaced concern with these tax breaks. The democratization of luxury we saw after Covid was different.
These tax breaks seem to be very strategic and won’t impact everyone equally.
There seems to be a desire to reward people for having children, but those reforms seem tempered at best.
The biggest breaks seem to be for retired folks and business owners. As a business owner and a commercial property owner I’m seeing huge breaks in the amount of distributions I can take from the businesses.
The 1031 rules seem to remain unchanged but capital gains taxes seem to have eased.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 2:51 pm
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