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re: Supreme Court upholds the TikTok ban (updated)
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think the status is already stated in the law by explicitly designating Byte Dance as being controlled by a foreign adversary. Best Biden could do is a one time extension of the divestiture deadline by 90 days, but that requires something like the following (not straight from the law) - “ …a path to a qualified divestiture has been identified, "significant" progress has been made to executing the divestiture, and legally binding agreements for facilitating the divestiture are in place.”
I don’t see the above happening before the 19th.
I don’t see the above happening before the 19th.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:01 pm to ctiger69
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TikTok has stated many times they will not be influenced by American left wing politics. Everybody is free to state their American political opinion on TikTok. But…..can’t have that.
China cares more about American freedom of speech than the left.
Now explain Trump's EC that cranked up this whole thing signed back in 2020.
IMO anything that reduces Chinese data farming even by a small percentage is fine with me. TikTok's functions will be quickly emulated and some American company will win the war for TikTok users.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:02 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
You are getting trolled by communist china. They will switch to whatever is best for them. It’s best to get rid of China’s influence and limit its ability to use tiktok for its advantage, spy, or leverage what is supposed to be private data against US citizens.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:13 pm to dallastigers
If you want to send a message to China then you cut off all trade and prohibit travel to/from China. Seize any property owned by the Chinese in the US.
The only reason they are going after TikTok is because it is easy to expose US government and its leaders.
You are on the side of Biden and Pelosi.
The only reason they are going after TikTok is because it is easy to expose US government and its leaders.
You are on the side of Biden and Pelosi.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:16 pm to Dex Morgan
You are just a fool for communist propaganda with tiktok. With all the leftist social media banning and censorship before Tweeter was bought by Musk I never once thought about using tiktok. Tiktok has always been a stain on the US. It’s embarrassing for a grown man to be whining about it going away.
I actually support kicking out China out of US businesses and land ownership including bytedance but not thru seizing anything. Force them to sell and don’t allow buying anything else in the US.
I am not some ignorant leftist with a Biden version of TDS who has to 100% support the opposite of whatever Biden or any dem supports. I come close to opposing dems most of the time especially in past 10 years, but it’s strictly based on their actual policies after looking into them and not just because it’s from a dem. I can also disagree with Trump even though I full heartedly supported him and voted for him. I don’t agree with anyone all the time including family and friends.
The bill was actually bipartisan and was something Trump rightfully pushed back in 2020. Biden was foolish for reversing it and other stuff like with the border after taking office just so he could arrogantly claim he erased Trump. The vote in the house was 352 to 65 (50 dems opposed along with 15 republicans). Passed 79–18 in the Senate. Reason for such overwhelming support is because China is a-hole.
It would be to your benefit in future political discussions and debates to not act in the same manner as leftwing nut jobs did with Trump.
It would also be to your benefit to get the heck off tiktok ban or no ban.
I actually support kicking out China out of US businesses and land ownership including bytedance but not thru seizing anything. Force them to sell and don’t allow buying anything else in the US.
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You are on the side of Biden and Pelosi.
I am not some ignorant leftist with a Biden version of TDS who has to 100% support the opposite of whatever Biden or any dem supports. I come close to opposing dems most of the time especially in past 10 years, but it’s strictly based on their actual policies after looking into them and not just because it’s from a dem. I can also disagree with Trump even though I full heartedly supported him and voted for him. I don’t agree with anyone all the time including family and friends.
The bill was actually bipartisan and was something Trump rightfully pushed back in 2020. Biden was foolish for reversing it and other stuff like with the border after taking office just so he could arrogantly claim he erased Trump. The vote in the house was 352 to 65 (50 dems opposed along with 15 republicans). Passed 79–18 in the Senate. Reason for such overwhelming support is because China is a-hole.
It would be to your benefit in future political discussions and debates to not act in the same manner as leftwing nut jobs did with Trump.
It would also be to your benefit to get the heck off tiktok ban or no ban.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:43 pm to OysterPoBoy
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TikTok is the most straight to the people app we have for information. They can’t have that. Why isn’t every Chinese company a security threat?
Agreed, but most of this board probably still associate it with the cringe TikTok dances when it's evolved into much more than that. Also, the same people on here criticizing the security threat are fine with Meta, Google, etc. American companies spying on them. Hell, Facebook messenger app is by far the most invasive app out there, yet nobody bats an eye.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
Our government has been spying on us for years and now that DC cannot control the narrative, they want to eliminate the opposition. They control the media and don’t want anyone to have access to alternates. It’s that simple. Fornicate all of them.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:15 pm to OysterPoBoy
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TikTok is the most straight to the people app we have for information. They can’t have that. Why isn’t every Chinese company a security threat?
It’s actually the most straight to communist china app China has to make America soft and censor anti-china talk. It’s not ours. It’s owned and controlled by communist china. There is no “we” about it.
The irony of trusting and championing communist china for free speech and free flow of information is lost of some.
How were algorithms for Trump back in 2020 when he signed executive order to force sale or when he pushed banning of other companies helping China spy or hack into US and other countries databases with Biden criticizing Trump for these by likely calling him a nazi or something similar? China will flip to whatever helps them and hurts the US.
I do think most Chinese owned or based companies are security threats. The commies hate the US, and we are funding their military build up to fight us one day. As far as apps the law gives the President the power to designate other applications as controlled by threats and force sale to continue in the US. Bytedance was just the one done explicitly in the law.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:28 pm to Jumbo_Gumbo
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Our government has been spying on us for years and now that DC cannot control the narrative, they want to eliminate the opposition. They control the media and don’t want anyone to have access to alternates. It’s that simple. Fornicate all of them.
What do think communist China does? Learn about history. China is more than our opposition it’s our enemy.
quote:In 2020 this would have made sense. It’s just ignorant now. And yes X can change, Facebook can flip back, and truth social can go away, but you are counting on communist china to not flip to do what’s best for them and what’s worst for its biggest enemy and threat - US (in both the word and abbreviation).
don’t want anyone to have access to alternates.
They have pushed a campaign on TikTok and fooled a group of people who should be glad to see anything controlled by China removed from the US into actually fighting for China to continue owning its intrusion into the US and powerful spy and propaganda machine whenever it needs to harm the US and help itself.
A patriot who wants to use tiktok for some reason would look at this as an opportunity for another free speech advocate and US loving citizen to take over tiktok here. Instead we have morons crying that their savior China has been harmed.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:31 pm to dallastigers
Grown men with ticker tocker is cringe af.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 12:00 am to ElRoos
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Also, the same people on here criticizing the security threat are fine with Meta, Google, etc. American companies spying on them
That’s such BS. I am 100% criticizing any security threat by China that is allowed in this country, but I am also supporting reversing some of the mergers and purchases of competition the US govt allowed Meta and google to make which paved the way for them to become so monopolistic, supporting the taking away of their 230 protections, and supporting the passing of a nationwide privacy law along the lines of the EU and California but hopefully superior to both.
It’s the communist China idolizers who while not being good with meta or google spying on us seem perfectly fine with China doing it. You have turned into a pinko commie and don’t even realize it.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 6:37 am to dallastigers
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That’s such BS. I am 100% criticizing any security threat by China that is allowed in this country, but I am also supporting reversing some of the mergers and purchases of competition the US govt allowed Meta and google to make which paved the way for them to become so monopolistic, supporting the taking away of their 230 protections, and supporting the passing of a nationwide privacy law along the lines of the EU and California but hopefully superior to both.
So why is congress okay with invasive apps like Facebook Messenger app then, and would you support a ban on that too?
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It’s the communist China idolizers who while not being good with meta or google spying on us seem perfectly fine with China doing it. You have turned into a pinko commie and don’t even realize it.
Wait, so because I like the TikTok platform, it means I’ve turned into a “pinko commie”? That’s the dumbest shite I’ve ever heard
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:30 am to ElRoos
If TikTok is such a National security threat, why are we 10 months later just banning it? It’s okay for the ChiComs to do whatever they’ve been doing for 10 months?
Would I prefer an American company own it? Sure. Do I buy the “national security” reason that all the boomer congressmen push? Absolutely not.
Would I prefer an American company own it? Sure. Do I buy the “national security” reason that all the boomer congressmen push? Absolutely not.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:41 am to RLDSC FAN
What are “they” trying to tell us here?
Tik Tok = Countdown
Countdown to what though?
Interesting that the countdown stops tomorrow on 119 = inverse 911
Interesting times
Tik Tok = Countdown
Countdown to what though?
Interesting that the countdown stops tomorrow on 119 = inverse 911
Interesting times
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:20 am to RLDSC FAN
content wasnt sufficiently pro-israel
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:28 am to lionward2014
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If TikTok is such a National security threat, why are we 10 months later just banning it? It’s okay for the ChiComs to do whatever they’ve been doing for 10 months?
We are closer to 4 years late since Biden in 2021 stopped Trump’s executive order in 2020 for political showmanship claiming to erase Trump (along with border initiatives that were working).
It was time for divestiture of tiktok before complete ban. If China had done anything and had made true major steps in doing this the ban could have been pushed off 90 days to complete it. China did nothing but file lawsuits and brainwash tiktok users into labeling those supporting this as boomers and push communist China as their savor of freedom.
Also, It’s been banned on govt phones and I think usage in certain places already. Same for some state governments.
It’s amazing how tiktok users love communist China and push this whole freedom angle. They all use the same messaging when making their points. It’s almost like China pushed subliminal messages in tiktok along with the bans or shadow bans of anything negative about China or its control of tiktok.
We are enemy #1 to China. When they build up military it’s to face us. They have a military division of hackers to hack into US networks and steal sensitive info and disrupt services. They spy from above and send in assets to get close to politicians and much more. Of course they are a national security threat. Tiktok should just be the start of kicking them out of the US.
This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:39 am to CatfishJohn
They need to be gone after their stunt with Covid. Why the USA even gives it the time of day is beyond me.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:56 am to ElRoos
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So why is congress okay with invasive apps like Facebook Messenger app then, and would you support a ban on that too?
Facebook is a US company. Do you not see the difference??? They have protections in this country that China doesn’t have.
quote:yes on this issue you are on the same side as communist china and seem to actual support communist china maintaining its ownership. Wanting to keep the status quo is 100% supporting communist China. It’s pretty simple and obvious, but your love of the tiktok platform has gotten you brainwashed by the commies using other sheep on tiktok to think you are fighting for freedom and trump by siding with communist China.
Wait, so because I like the TikTok platform, it means I’ve turned into a “pinko commie”?
quote:Its pretty simple. Citizens of this country have freedom of speech protection against the government which also extends to US corporations. The US can and should pass a privacy law to protect the privacy and data of individuals, but it cannot ban Facebook. Just like if tiktok gets sold off to a US company or citizen it also couldn’t be banned in the future.
I won’t disagree with you about the app being a security threat, but you also cannot convince me the American apps aren’t just as bad, if not, more invasive than TikTok. This ruling is just pure hypocrisy by our government overlords and you know it.
Addiction to tiktok is a real for some of you. You can’t handle a break in staring at it or see where this could be heading even though it was almost heading in same direction before Biden was declared the winner of the 2020 election.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:06 am to dallastigers
I’m intrigued to get back to work at my school Tuesday and see what my students have moved on to for entertainment.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:58 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
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Our government has been spying on us for years and now that DC cannot control the narrative, they want to eliminate the opposition. They control the media and don’t want anyone to have access to alternates. It’s that simple.
This and then add in how many of our politicians own and trade stock in Meta. They don't make money off TikTok.
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