re: Study: MRNA Vaccines Increase Risk of Contracting COVID-19; Each Booster Shot Raises Risk

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So the vaccine did work. It did not work as well as expected but it did work.

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A vaccine effectiveness of 30% less than 4 months (bivalent booster given September 12 according to the study)… that’s considered working for you?

You have a very low bar… make a 30 on a test is passing grade for you in school? A girl that’s a 3/10… damn… she’s a keeper!!

What will the effectiveness be after 6 months? 10-20%? Are you ok with that too?

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Do they raise the risk, or are the higher-risk people getting vaccinated?

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Common sense says that people who are at higher risk are more likely to get vaccinated. The gateway pundit, the OP, and the anti-vax people want you to believe that they are at higher risk because they got vaccinated.

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Common sense says that people who are at higher risk are more likely to get vaccinated. The gateway pundit, the OP, and the anti-vax people want you to believe that they are at higher risk because they got vaccinated.

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The study also says that this is a likely explanation for the findings

And since the study apparently can't be questioned we'll have to consider that a strong possibility

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but you're acting like just because a group of people didn't get vaccinated means they never get tested for CV even if sick.

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How am I acting like that if you admitted that you understand what I'm saying?



You seem to agree that a person with more boosters is more likely to test than someone unvaxxed for the same symptoms, which is all I said. So how do you figure I'm "acting like" anything other than exactly what I said?

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A vaccine effectiveness of 30% less than 4 months (bivalent booster given September 12 according to the study)… that’s considered working for you?

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Yes that is considered working. The hazard ratio is 0.7 which is a statistically significant reduction.

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You have a very low bar… make a 30 on a test is passing grade for you in school?

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You are comparing medical research to grade school grades. That is completely different things and you should feel stupid for doing so.

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What will the effectiveness be after 6 months? 10-20%?

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How are we supposed to know the 6 month effectiveness of a vaccine that has only been used for 4 months?

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Are you ok with that too?

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The question was if the vaccine worked or not. The question was not if the vaccine worked as well as expected or if I was satisfied with the results. The vaccine led to a statistically significant reduction in hazard ratio. So yes the vaccine worked.

I would argue that there are plenty of people not vaxxed at all that are tested quit frequently. Up until recently oilfield baws still had to be tested before a hitch on a rig. Hell..some may still be. I doubt many of them are vaxxed.

I know we are getting off the study statistics so this is pointless but it'd be great to have a wider study to compare.

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Just stop being a lying piece of shite. It would make you more likeable.

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shite...a stranger on a message board thinks I'm a liar and will like me more if I don't say what he claims are lies?

Sounds good, pal. I'll get right on doing better, BFF

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I would argue that there are plenty of people not vaxxed at all that are tested quit frequently. Up until recently oilfield baws still had to be tested before a hitch on a rig. Hell..some may still be. I doubt many of them are vaxxed.

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I'd say it's likely that only the people are compelled to do it are doing this though

If you didn't get the vax you definitely aren't getting tested without severe symptoms in most cases. And probably shouldn't be.

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I would argue that there are plenty of people not vaxxed at all that are tested quit frequently.

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I'll ask you very directly, who do you think is more likely to be tested in general with the same general starting symptoms: Someone who has had 4 boosters, or someone who is unvaccinated?

Who ya got?

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I know we are getting off the study statistics so this is pointless but it'd be great to have a wider study to compare.

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Like I said, if the study had a sample of people in each bucket, and were testing at some regular intervals, this would make more sense.

But unvaxxed people on average are rather obviously going to test less than those who are and even less than those who have 2, 3 or 4 shots. That was always going to skew this data to where I don't know what to do with it.



Does the study document or confirm less vaccinated were just as likely to get tested with the same symptoms?

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So you are saying that all these Baws who didnt get the vax just roaming the streets all well and good would make the study more in favor of the VAX?

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I'm saying anti vax people are probably not likely to get tested unless they have severe symptoms or are very high risk with milder symptoms