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re: Study: Illicit opioid deaths to rise by 147 percent by 2025

Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:51 pm to
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I had a gunshot wound and a broken jaw within 10 months from each other about 10 years ago. I had taken so many pain killers that I had to have a medical detox to get back right. I will tell any doctor now that I can't take oxycodone or hydrocodone because I would rather suffer than go through the withdrawal symptoms. frick the pharmaceutical lobby and the doctors that are complicit.



Physical and chemical dependency whether intended or not, is very real. You're lucky you got clean. Some people spiral out of control.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88966 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Many get hooked because of overzealous doctors handing pills out like candy for pain relief
Which is why I never took any of the pills I was given when I had shoulder surgery.

Too many horror stories.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Googling revealed it was, Oxycontin


Was a puppy compared to opioids. Really.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4659 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:53 pm to
Joint Commission For Accreditation was the organization that was pushing all this -5th vital sign,etc.We had a clipboard nurse coming around every day checking our charts making sure we were assessing patients for pain and giving plenty of pain meds.Nobody wanted patients to be in pain but we were obligated to give meds if patient said they were,no matter how comfortable they appeared.
Thing is hospitals are scared to death of JCAH,if hospital was cited,they would be would be re-inspected at a later date which entailed a large fee
JACH started for a good reason but it has turned into a “racket”.I am convinced that they were being paid off by drug companies.A lot of the educational material we received concerning pain etc was written by drug companies.West Virginia is suing them along with drug companies
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73325 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:53 pm to
I went to a doc-in-a-box in 2016 after throwing my back out, wife made me go. He asked me a few questions, said he didn't want to put me through $10k of tests because regardless of the results, his diagnosis was the same.

Ibuprofen
Steroids
Hydrocodone

I took the steroids and layed on a heating pad for two days and it worked wonders. I never once took the opiate. I was somewhat sketched out by the fact he even prescribed it. I still have the bottle rattling around somewhere in case I need it in the apocalypse. This wasn't 5 or ten years ago, this was 2-3 years ago when the opioid crisis was a known thing. I thought it was really weird.


Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43021 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:58 pm to
The world needs a new effective culling
Posted by Jalbow3
Trussville
Member since Oct 2008
4089 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:05 pm to
I'm not sure that it really goes away. My grandfather would sometimes say that "I could smoke a cigarette as long as that coffee table". It's the same way with opiates. Sometimes out of nowhere the craving hits. It's hard for people to understand that have never been there. It's easy to say "just quit".
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:06 pm to
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oint Commission For Accreditation was the organization that was pushing all this -5th vital sign,etc.


Even with the opioid crisis it is still being pushed this way.


As a nurse I HAD to document within one hour of giving an oral pain med the pain response. 30 minutes if it was an IV pain med. And you were required to assess pain at LEAST every 4 hours.

There are still survey questions that ask the patient if the staff in the hospital addressed their pain appropriately.

Problem is...people have very unrealistic expectations with pain....ESPECIALLY parents. I get it...you don't want to see your child hurting...but maybe the best pain level that we are gonna realistically get down to is a 3 and not a zero. Yet try explaining that to a parent and they will get hysterical and threaten to sue the hospital or give bad survey scores if you don't hurry up and give their child (who is now quietly playing on their ipad or texting their friends at a rapid pace) IV morphine RIGHT THIS SECOND.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 8:07 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77179 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:07 pm to
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I know someone that very recently went into psychosis because of weed. It's not as safe as I thought or that people make out. Weed psychosis is very real and this person did not smoke a lot to get there. Scary as hell.


Thanks El Gaucho.
Posted by GambitAUfan
Member since Nov 2010
3220 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:09 pm to
Those people texting are also going online and writing a 1 Star review about how the doctors and nurses are awful and don’t treat pain appropriately
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37738 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:11 pm to
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that between 2015 and 2025, around 700,000 people are projected to die from an opioid overdose,


So a year and 4~ months of tobacco deaths spread out over 10 years?

Yawn
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 8:12 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by Jalbow3
Trussville
Member since Oct 2008
4089 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:12 pm to
I've never understood the 1-10 pain scale that medical professionals ask. I guess it's to weed out the people that are coming for pills, but if I'm up and talking to you, it couldn't worse than 6. I guess the ones coming for a prescription are always at 10.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94798 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:17 pm to
Have hey blamed marijuana for gatewaying them into shooting up?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
60635 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:17 pm to
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then smoked some about 7 years ago,



Fish...I am shocked....
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14281 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:18 pm to
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Impossible to know what will happen in 2025.


Yep. I mean, weren't we all supposed to be underwater right now?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8520 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:18 pm to
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Physical and chemical dependency whether intended or not, is very real. You're lucky you got clean. Some people spiral out of control.


That’s the problem, everyone can become chemically dependent on different things. For some it’s pills, for others its alcohol, yet I can buy all the alcohol I want but for the pills I have to lie, beg or steal to get them. That’s the problem. At the end of the day I’d rather take a pain pill versus the other 100 prescription pills that are advertised across the tv on a daily basis.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24848 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:20 pm to
frick junkies
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37738 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:20 pm to
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Weed psychosis is very real


Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58518 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:20 pm to
It's sad they have an indian doctor in charge of american healthcare

when politicians and foreign doctors take away regular americans access to safe doctor medicine for their sickness they're forced to turn to dangerous street drugs like marijuana and heroin
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